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18th September 2010, 04:57 AM | #1 |
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Also Oriental-arms calls these Bugis keris chieftain's:
www.oriental-arms.com/photos.php?id=1306 www.oriental-arms.com/photos.php?id=2469 Any truth to this attribution? |
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I think it was Adni from Malay Gallery that said alluded to the width and size of the wrangka is what designates a chieftain's keris. What do you folks think (since I am not sure)?
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Thank you. Helpful. But what then makes for a chieftain's blade?
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23rd September 2010, 01:12 AM | #6 |
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Very helpful, thank you. Is it possible to not have luks at all but be a straight blade?
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27th September 2010, 03:28 AM | #8 |
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Thank you for answering my question. Again, there is little information in the books about this subject.
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28th November 2013, 09:27 AM | #9 |
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Another Chieftain
Another example in my possesion.
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28th November 2013, 12:23 PM | #10 |
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and I have its brother
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28th November 2013, 09:27 PM | #11 |
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My last buy of what some call " chieftain keris " . Some restoration made to this keris bought in very poor condition ( silver features ) and tried to clean and rejuvenate the faded goldish flowers painted on the scabbard . Blade is 99 % original to scabbard .
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Excellent piece also with original sheath and very nice hilt but this Bugis blade seems of standard proportions as compared to the criterias defined by Khalifah Muda? (thick, stout, slender and very close luks). Regards |
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A lot of nice examples going up, but frankly i'm not convinced that we are any closer to answering José's initial question. Certainly a form of dress exists which collectors at least have seen fit to tag as "chieftain" keris. I have seen a couple of posts that begin "i have heard" or some other unsubstantiated claim, but nothing that nails down that a keris of a certain width with 7 luks in one of these fat, wide sheaths is definitely a "chieftain" keris and not simply that of a wealthy merchant or man of means.
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Would this blade qualify for a Chieftain kris? It is 33.5 cm long and housed in a standard Bugis sheath from Sulawesi (the tip was damaged and replaced). Regards |
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