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I found this recently. Very interesting!!! Is this hilt for a Tajong, Coteng or Lampung ???
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It's a simplified tajong hilt.
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I am sorry Newsteel, I think to be frank with you, it's a like AlamShah said, simplified tajung hilt - could be mass produced
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Before I ask this question, I'd like to be very clear:-
I am not attacking anybody; this is a straight forward, plain question with no hidden agenda . Lately I have seen several times the reference to "mass production" in discussions. Exactly what do other members of this discussion group consider to be "mass production"? |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_production This hilt does appear to be a more modern and perhaps simplified tajong. At least it doesn't seem to follow the usually codified design pattern for tajong. Still it seems a fairly well executed carving. But i would question the idea that it was "mass produced". ![]() |
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I got this from my contact in Sumatra when I acquire keris Palembang from him. This hilt happened to be with him, said to come from Lampung.
New hilt no doubt but it got this smooth aged touch. I can't help but noticing the silimar features of a tajong and the super curling beak. It has slimmer width but of same length or size of a tajong. Even the carving, very much influenced by the tajong but there are also some floral motives too, similar to what found on some typical Sumatran hilt (keris panjang). History, little information is known about Lampung (keris). But there is once a strong connection and influence between Lampung and Pattani/Northern Malaysia before Demak kingdom came into power. |
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There is also possibility that this hilt would be another "reproduction" - meaning it could be customised by someone at Sumatra. Unlike a typical tajong where it has a boxier shape, this may be customised to suite the Sumatran. Looking close at it, I would not rate it as a tourist piece either.
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A sumatran interpretation of the tajong, which probably appeared in recent times.
![]() The carving is "quick and rough" type. I don't like to use the term "tourist", but ya, its probably part of that category. ![]() |
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I think for this standard of carving, the carver probably took a day or two to finish, whereas for a proper tajong done with care, it could take months.
For an example on the 'quick and rough' part, just look at the eyes - its not even round. |
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![]() No argument that this is not the fine and finished work that is the general standard for tajong hilts. But it is not the product of an unskilled artisan either. Certainly it is a bit on the rough side (yep, noticed the eyes). Imagine what he could have done with another week or two... ![]() ![]() |
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