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Hi everyone,
can anyone tell me what this marking on the blade of this Tulwar means or any other comments would be appreciated.. All steel hilt and blade, scabbard missing. Blade is 31 inches long, overall length 35 inches |
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Katana,
The script is in Devnagri. Has to be a Hindu Tulwar, probably Rajput. |
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Thankyou Olikara
![]() have you any idea what the translation could be ? |
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Katana, maybe it would be easier to see the different letters if you could make a drawing of them.
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Hi Jens,
thank you, I am waiting for the sword to be delivered.....I'll draw the letters when the Tulwar arrives. Regards David |
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Hi Jens,
I hope this makes it clearer... Regards David |
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Hi David, check out this site called Omniglot for a transliteration into our alphabet.
Regards, Emanuel |
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Jens,
Doesn't this dotted script suggest a weapon associated with the armoury at Bikaner? Best, Jim |
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Katana,
The characters from the sword translate into: po=ra=n.2880 Katana, you wrote the 'po' as 'pa' in your note though. Maybe you can see the characters better. Members who know more about armoury marks can help here. |
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Thanks Emanuel for the link
![]() Hi Jim, nice to hear from you ![]() Thank you very much Olikara for the translation, ![]() Hopefully, someone will know whether this is an armoury mark, manufacturer mark or.......... ![]() |
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Katana,
First you should know that the Indian numerals can look quite differently, according to if it is Sanskrit, Bengali, Kutch, Gujarati or maybe Devavnagri. Secondly you must keep in mind, that the numerals written were sometimes a mixture of more than one dialect, and last remember, that my knowledge on this subject is very limited. I don’t think the first signs are letters, but I would prefer not to start guessing. The number could be 2880, in which case it is likely to be a number, but it could also be 1880 if you use numerals from another dialect. This could be a number, but with some luck, it could also be a year. If it is a year it is likely to be SV 1880 = 1823/1824 AD. This is of course pure guessing, and we have far too many if’s and good luck to have come any closer to the answer. Jim, I don’t know if it is from Bikaner. Maybe it is, but it does not have the typical Bikaner marking. |
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The first signs must almost certainly be 'letters' rather than numerals, the shapes are too distinctive (esp. with the vowel-matras). The first 'letter' could be perhaps either 'po' or 'pii'.
The letters may be an abbreviation for something, or themselves part of a catalogueing scheme, rather than spelling out a word. |
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