New arrivals, not too sure what they are.

kronckew · 21st April 2006, 06:50 PM

stag handled short sword and 'kukhri' arrived today. pics from my website:
(UK Penny in pics is same size as US Cent)

right side, 3/16"x7/8"x17 3/8" blade, 3.5" stag grip, no guard or pommel cap, full tang, end peened and ground flush with stag.
one long fuller each side from grip 3/4 to tip, two add'l. fullers in portion just before tip,
symmetrical both sides. blade spine is 3/16" at grip, distally tapers to tip area.
blade is flexible spring steel, some heavypitting near tip, staining & light pitting rest of blade.
grip is very old stag & very brown with age. blade thickness swells just at the grip, forming a shoulder for the stag to butt against,
so is not a cut down sword blade. have cleaned off any active rust with a
brass brush & wiped down with ballistol. no markings on blade. someone has suggested a north african connection, but the stag grip is a bit unusual.

left side

next one was sold as a 'gurkha knife kukhri/oriental dagger', which it ain't!

included here as a funny! we think it is a newly made rough villager bolo. i think it's one of the simpley produced 'cracker barrel' ones you can find in remote village stores or in the open markets, cheap & made for using, not display.

villager bolo right side, grip is 4"x1"x3/4". blade is 9 3/4"x 1 3/4" at widest, 1/4" thick at grip,
unsharpened ricasso, blade is distally tapered to the point,
rough forged and shows some evidence of folding/lamination in the steel.
scabbard is a very light wood, made in two halves and held together with rattan braided bands.
the white 5 part braided suspension with mini-carabiner is my addition.
have put 3 coats of oil finish on the assemblage. grip was very dark in original pic from ebay
and blade had a whitish cast. turned out to be dirt on grip & some gunk on the blade,
all of which came off with a soapy sponge prior to oil finishing the wood & ballistol for the blade.

bolo reverse side.

original pic pre-wash. i think of this now as my PI Kukhri....

Tim Simmons · 21st April 2006, 09:06 PM

The stag horn handled sword looks very much like a 19th cent hunting hanger, they come in many similar guises striaght and curved with or without a knuckle bow. I could be wrong as it is not really my thing.

ErnestoJuan · 21st April 2006, 10:24 PM

The first item does look to me - in my humble opinion I should add as I am only starting to learn - like an oversized spulla, the straight genoie variant of the Moroccan Koummya. The spulla's or genoie's were commonly known to be made of bayonet blades - correct me if I am wrong. I must say, with regards to the fullers, that the blade looks like a bayonet blade,

Just my 2 eurocents,

Ernesto.

21st April 2006, 06:50 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	New arrivals, not too sure what they are. stag handled short sword and 'kukhri' arrived today. pics from my website: (UK Penny in pics is same size as US Cent) right side, 3/16"x7/8"x17 3/8" blade, 3.5" stag grip, no guard or pommel cap, full tang, end peened and ground flush with stag. one long fuller each side from grip 3/4 to tip, two add'l. fullers in portion just before tip, symmetrical both sides. blade spine is 3/16" at grip, distally tapers to tip area. blade is flexible spring steel, some heavypitting near tip, staining & light pitting rest of blade. grip is very old stag & very brown with age. blade thickness swells just at the grip, forming a shoulder for the stag to butt against, so is not a cut down sword blade. have cleaned off any active rust with a brass brush & wiped down with ballistol. no markings on blade. someone has suggested a north african connection, but the stag grip is a bit unusual. left side next one was sold as a 'gurkha knife kukhri/oriental dagger', which it ain't! included here as a funny! we think it is a newly made rough villager bolo. i think it's one of the simpley produced 'cracker barrel' ones you can find in remote village stores or in the open markets, cheap & made for using, not display. villager bolo right side, grip is 4"x1"x3/4". blade is 9 3/4"x 1 3/4" at widest, 1/4" thick at grip, unsharpened ricasso, blade is distally tapered to the point, rough forged and shows some evidence of folding/lamination in the steel. scabbard is a very light wood, made in two halves and held together with rattan braided bands. the white 5 part braided suspension with mini-carabiner is my addition. have put 3 coats of oil finish on the assemblage. grip was very dark in original pic from ebay and blade had a whitish cast. turned out to be dirt on grip & some gunk on the blade, all of which came off with a soapy sponge prior to oil finishing the wood & ballistol for the blade. bolo reverse side. original pic pre-wash. i think of this now as my PI Kukhri.... Last edited by kronckew; 21st April 2006 at 07:03 PM.

21st April 2006, 10:24 PM	#3
ErnestoJuan Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europa Posts: 60	first pic The first item does look to me - in my humble opinion I should add as I am only starting to learn - like an oversized spulla, the straight genoie variant of the Moroccan Koummya. The spulla's or genoie's were commonly known to be made of bayonet blades - correct me if I am wrong. I must say, with regards to the fullers, that the blade looks like a bayonet blade, Just my 2 eurocents, Ernesto. Last edited by ErnestoJuan; 21st April 2006 at 10:29 PM. Reason: typo's

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21st April 2006, 09:06 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	The stag horn handled sword looks very much like a 19th cent hunting hanger, they come in many similar guises striaght and curved with or without a knuckle bow. I could be wrong as it is not really my thing.