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Hello,
just found and bought this big dhal shield at flea market for a reasonable small price: it is 65cm / 25,6 inches diameter and has a weight of 3kg / 6,6 pounds, unfortunately, no more straps and cushion on the back looking on internet, I saw that some Rajasthan leather shields have the same kind of bosses but never saw the decoration with these threes ( or plants ?) Any idea about exact origin and age ? For the leather, how can we know what kind of animal it come from ? Buffalo ? has someone a ''magical technique'' for recognize it. I read that rhino back shield are translucent but I'm not sure it will be the same when painted and lackered. Thanks Frankie |
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HI FRANKIE NICE SHIELD AND LUCKY FIND,I THINK ITS FROM GUJARAT, WESTERN INDIA,HERE IS MY EXAMPLE,CHEERS RAJESH
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Whaouh !
Really nice collection !!! Thank you, I'll look for Gujarat shields. Best wishes |
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Hi,
Your shield certainly is an Indian dhal. The four brass boss'es held on with a brass rivet passing through a brass washer, one of the washers has a flower shape. The shield bosses have a circular padding underneath that does not show too much soiling. The weight of 6.6 lbs seems very high, normally these leather shields are much lighter. The style of split leaf floral/vine is also Indian displayed in four quadrants. Is unusual to have two such contrasting similar colors, one the circular central medallion and the other the four floral patterns. Often the clear lacquer over a painted area can fade, changing its brightness. Makes me wonder if the four floral designs may have been applied at a different time. Sometimes you can hold a shield up to light and see through it. Other times you can see and feel surface texture forming erratic plate shapes, other times the surface is smooth and painted/stained opaque. Its amazing how strong the cuirboille technique is for making armor. rand |
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That weight isn't that unusual for a large shield like this. I don't have a set of weights of Indian hide shields at hand, but here is a Persian one (diameter, weight, other comments):
65cm, 2840g, 16th century, elephant hide, centre gripped 61.5cm, 4500g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 35.8cm, 1550g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 42.5cm, 1720g, Safavid, hide, forearm strapped 52cm, 1850g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 50.5cm, 1580g, Safavid, rhino hide, centre gripped 48cm, 460g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 47.5cm, 1553g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 44.5cm, 1760g, Safavid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 39.5cm, 2270g, Safavid, steel, centre gripped 40cm, 1380g, Afsharid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 51cm, 1880g, Afsharid, buffalo hide, centre gripped 53cm, 2948g, Afsharid, rhino hide, forearm strapped 51cm, 3270g, Zand, rhino hide, forearm strapped 41.5cm, 1375g, Zand, hide, centre gripped 48cm, 2610g, Qajar, buffalo hide, forearm strapped 65cm, 2840g, Qajar, rhino hide, centre gripped 47cm, 2270g, Qajar, rhino hide, forearm strapped 67.5cm, 2620g, Qajar, rhino hide, forearm strapped 49cm, 2620g, Qajar, buffalo hide, centre gripped 47cm, 2500g, Qajar, steel, centre gripped 39cm, 1960g, Qajar, steel, centre gripped 51.2cm, 2620g, Qajar, steel, centre gripped Safavid = 1502 to 1796 Afsharid = 1737 to 1802 Zand = 1750 to 1794 Qajar = 1794 to 1925: |
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Hello,
thank you Timo and Rand for all precious comments !! Best wishes Frankie |
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