Blacksmith forged sword, from ireland?

Kmaddock · 23rd July 2015, 08:15 PM

Hi all
Picked this item up last night and am very interested in opinions
It is 25 inches long with a blade of 21 inches
Blade is nice and springy, grip has definite age and well made, fits well into the hand. Guard is made of brass and nicely shaped, peening well done and definite age, overall no markings what so ever
Definitely not a school play item as the edge is v sharp and nicely balanced.
Looks to be folding flaws on the blade where the lamination is failed, I have tried to photo these but can try again tomorrow if they do not come out.

I would not be one to clean items but I might give it a rub of a damp cloth if information might be gleaned.

Shaping of blade only on one side with no fuller but has central spine running down to edge fully on one side and top third on other side
Story is, found bricked into wall in v old house in Ireland.
Has the look of some of weapons I have seen home manufactured for irish rebels in 1798 rebellion and later, maybe me being romantic but you have to dream
Any taughts or opinions?
Best regards
Ken

M ELEY · 24th July 2015, 08:13 AM

I think this cutlass-type sword is Philippine, based on the golak-style blade-

Kmaddock · 24th July 2015, 09:59 PM

You might be right on a Philippine weapon I do not know
When looking for info on 1798 rebellion I found this other sword related article which you might find interesting
Hope hipper link works if not google bronze sword 1798 ireland
Regards
Ken

http://irisharchaeology.ie/2013/11/t...ancient-sword/

M ELEY · 31st July 2015, 09:45 PM

Sorry I missed your reply, Ken. Fascinating article! I am also intrigued by the pike shown. It resembles the common gaff hooks on naval vessels of the time. Thanks for posting it and good luck on identifying your sword. You might want to post it over on the Ethno side of the forum.
Mark

Ken Maddock · 1st August 2015, 12:06 AM

Hi Mark

Yes an amazing article, I am actually going to they reenactment of the 1798 rebellion this weekend, have to persuade wife but am winning her over
I will post up some pictures
As for the sword I will take your advice and go the ethnic route.
Best regards
Ken

Rick · 1st August 2015, 01:09 AM

I'm not entirely convinced this is Philippine; any more back story on this piece Ken ?
Purchased in Ireland ?

23rd July 2015, 08:15 PM	#1
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Blacksmith forged sword, from ireland? Hi all Picked this item up last night and am very interested in opinions It is 25 inches long with a blade of 21 inches Blade is nice and springy, grip has definite age and well made, fits well into the hand. Guard is made of brass and nicely shaped, peening well done and definite age, overall no markings what so ever Definitely not a school play item as the edge is v sharp and nicely balanced. Looks to be folding flaws on the blade where the lamination is failed, I have tried to photo these but can try again tomorrow if they do not come out. I would not be one to clean items but I might give it a rub of a damp cloth if information might be gleaned. Shaping of blade only on one side with no fuller but has central spine running down to edge fully on one side and top third on other side Story is, found bricked into wall in v old house in Ireland. Has the look of some of weapons I have seen home manufactured for irish rebels in 1798 rebellion and later, maybe me being romantic but you have to dream Any taughts or opinions? Best regards Ken Attached Images

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24th July 2015, 08:13 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	I think this cutlass-type sword is Philippine, based on the golak-style blade-

24th July 2015, 09:59 PM	#3
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	You might be right on a Philippine weapon I do not know When looking for info on 1798 rebellion I found this other sword related article which you might find interesting Hope hipper link works if not google bronze sword 1798 ireland Regards Ken http://irisharchaeology.ie/2013/11/t...ancient-sword/

31st July 2015, 09:45 PM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	Sorry I missed your reply, Ken. Fascinating article! I am also intrigued by the pike shown. It resembles the common gaff hooks on naval vessels of the time. Thanks for posting it and good luck on identifying your sword. You might want to post it over on the Ethno side of the forum. Mark

1st August 2015, 12:06 AM	#5
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Hi Mark Yes an amazing article, I am actually going to they reenactment of the 1798 rebellion this weekend, have to persuade wife but am winning her over I will post up some pictures As for the sword I will take your advice and go the ethnic route. Best regards Ken

1st August 2015, 01:09 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I'm not entirely convinced this is Philippine; any more back story on this piece Ken ? Purchased in Ireland ?