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This is the other lance i picked up .
Also in Holland for at least 50 years . Total length is 1.85 m. Imo it is short but the shaft isn,t shortend so i supose the length is original. But the origin ![]() regards, Danny |
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YOU HAVE BEEN LUCKY TWO VERY NICE SPEARS AT ONE TIME.
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Congratulations with this find! Very nice indeed. I had my eyes on the lot, but the photo's were too bad to make a decision. I am looking forward to the other two.
This one indeed makes me think of Nias, but not quite. See the photo of several Nias spears (Modigliani collection, Florence, Italy). I think this one is from Aceh, Sumatra. The base of the blade (covered with brass instead of in one piece with the rest of the iron blade) is exceptional. |
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Great catch!
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Hi Danny,
The upper part of the shaft, is it oxagonal ? (eight flattened sides ?) Best regards, Willem |
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Ps. here a Atjeh lance with similar shape.
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Everybody thanks for the reply's and the photo's !
Albert you are right that the photo's from the seller where not realy good but i'm glad that i did take the gamble ![]() If i have time this weekend i Wil make photo's from the other two spears that where in the same lot . Thanks Sajen ! Vandoo , yea the have great patin and the don't come from a collector what i always considers as something good . The seller did get this spears from his father when he was still a boy and the last 20+ years the just stand in a corner of his garage . Willem the upper part of the shaft is not oxagonal , nice spear on youre photo is the length also around 1.85 ? Regards, |
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My example is 1.70 m. But it looks like it has been slightly longer in the past. |
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Last week I was lucky enough to buy an rare atjeh lance.
I was wondering where I had seen this type before. Well on the forum ofcourse :-) I bought it from the son of the person who brought it to the Netherlands in 1923. |
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Congratz Willem with your nice find.
Are the protrusions in between the brass sleeve and the lancehead a silver alloy or silver? - Maurice - |
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Nice example, Willem!
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I'd guess at brass or bronze. It does have a different hue but does not strike me as silver alloy... Regards, Kai |
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After closer examination of the photo, I'm agreeing with Kai - bronze, more likely brass based on the color of the different patinas and types of patinas.
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It has a brass colour, but It was quite easy to get it shining. Best regards, Willem |
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Danny,
That is a beautiful piece you have, a treasure. Thank you for posting. I picked this one up a while back and have been meaning to do some more research on it. I knew that it must be SE Asia, but I wasn't sure where exactly it should be placed. Your post has given me a big head start so thought I would share here to add to the discussion. Looks like I should be looking at Ache. Can you tell what type of wood the haft is? I just picked up another that I believe is Moro and it has a lovely tapered haft of palm wood (2.26M total length). I wouldn't mind giving this one a new haft at some point, but if I do I want to do it with an appropriate wood. |
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Hello Efrahjalt,
That is definately an atjeh spear head you have there. The example that I posted has a sort of rottan as a shaft. But that is not very common. Most atjeh lances I have seen have a dark hardwood shaft. Best regards, Willem |
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I was very interested to learn about the shaft made of rottan. The natural materials used to make traditional weapons in Southeast Asia is a very exciting area for me. Sincerely Serge |
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Very nice spear! Are the pictures from the family of the person who brought it to the Netherlands? Regards, Detlef |
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Hello Detlef, The picture of the SS Insulinde is from internet.
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