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Nice piece Michael
![]() As has broadaxe cleverly pointed out the hilt and more elaborate guard shows more central european origin than oriental / central asian. Thus I would kindly disagree (if I may ![]() The most prominent feature of a "sabre-proper" (for lack of a better term) seems to be its canted hilt (at the very end , usually accompanied by a small pommel) and , not so much the curved blade (overall it gives you a kind of a "S" profile ; mind you there are various breeds of single edged and curved bladed swords , messers and falchions that arent really a product of central asian influences). For comparison look at the hilt on the original weapon posted by Michael/Matchlock and compare it with these: sword of sultan mehmed : ![]() Note the canted hilt at the end.. also the curvature on the blade isnt so much dramatic , but the overall "S" profile can be visible To give some other examples of typical sabre hilts here is a Classical Hungarian 17th century sabre (again the way how the hilt ends is interesting): ![]() 15th century "Schiavonesca" saber : ![]() Note that despite having a sword-like hilt it is indeed canted at the end and again forms a sort of a overall S-profile. A closeup on the messer that belonged to Kaiser Maximmilian I : ![]() One can spot the "knife like" ending , with the grip being straight, which is different to that of central asian influenced sabres. Going further some messers actually have quite a curve on their blade (albeit without the yelmen , another "saberish" feature which is missing on Michaels piece). Of course there are examples that are a bit of "wild cards" and have both sabre as well as "genuine european messer" features ,but they seem to be quite rare. For those aforementioned reasons I would somewhat hestiate calling it a sabre. Not here to spark any heated debate , but I am geninuely interested whats your take on the issue. Regards, Samuel |
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