A Very Rare And Heavy Barrel, ca. 1470-80, From a Mulitbarrel Cannon

Matchlock · 26th July 2009, 08:26 PM

Almost certainly of Nuremberg make, wrought iron, octagonal, of tapering form with slightly swamped muzzle, deep and large touch hole with rudimentary pan moulding, gunsmith's marks: three circles in line and a series of illegible symbols (a date?), surmounted by a cross.

Originally most certainly not individually stocked but part of a mutlibarrel cannon arrangement.

Overall length: 36.8 cm, cal. 29.5 cm, width at the rear 9.4 cm, width at muzzle 6.3 cm, weight ca. 7 kg.

Rumor has it that my friend Fernando will quite soon be able to present a very similar item ...

Michael

Matchlock · 26th July 2009, 08:34 PM

Please also cf. my thread '15th century short wrought iron barrels - why there are so many around':

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7927

M.

fernando · 27th July 2009, 01:21 AM

Hi Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

... Rumor has it that my friend Fernando will quite soon be able to present a very similar item ...

...

I wish it were similar ... i mean, gunsmith's marks and all; most certainly not

.
Anyway, there is still a tough way for the rumor to become reality; so, let me not throw the fire crackers before the party time; in other words, let me not count with the egg still inside the hen's 'rear part'; in yet other words, only after the tide we should count the octopuses

.

Best
Fernando

Matchlock · 29th July 2009, 03:33 PM

More sources of illustration depicting mulitbarrel devices.

Michael

fernando · 29th July 2009, 05:05 PM

Hi Michael,
There should be some kind of dope, to administer to early barrels; to put them spitting out whether they acted as single or multi weapons

.
Fernando

Matchlock · 29th July 2009, 06:47 PM

Brilliant idea, Fernando,

These items are kinda addictive anyway ...

Michael

fernando · 29th July 2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

...These items are kinda addictive anyway ...

...

Who you are telling that to

.

Fernando

Matchlock · 30th July 2009, 04:23 PM

Exactly, my dear co-addict.

Michael

Matchlock · 30th July 2009, 05:29 PM

A closely related specimen at the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, dated to around 1380 by the museum people which is almost 100 years too early in my opinion.

The general shape, the swamping of both the rear end and the muzzle, as well as the proportions and the moulded touch hole are very similar.

Michael

26th July 2009, 08:26 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Very Rare And Heavy Barrel, ca. 1470-80, From a Mulitbarrel Cannon Almost certainly of Nuremberg make, wrought iron, octagonal, of tapering form with slightly swamped muzzle, deep and large touch hole with rudimentary pan moulding, gunsmith's marks: three circles in line and a series of illegible symbols (a date?), surmounted by a cross. Originally most certainly not individually stocked but part of a mutlibarrel cannon arrangement. Overall length: 36.8 cm, cal. 29.5 cm, width at the rear 9.4 cm, width at muzzle 6.3 cm, weight ca. 7 kg. Rumor has it that my friend Fernando will quite soon be able to present a very similar item ... Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 26th July 2009 at 08:53 PM.

29th July 2009, 03:33 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	More sources of illustration depicting mulitbarrel devices. Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 29th July 2009 at 03:51 PM.

30th July 2009, 05:29 PM	#9
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A closely related specimen at the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, dated to around 1380 by the museum people which is almost 100 years too early in my opinion. The general shape, the swamping of both the rear end and the muzzle, as well as the proportions and the moulded touch hole are very similar. Michael Attached Images

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26th July 2009, 08:34 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Please also cf. my thread '15th century short wrought iron barrels - why there are so many around': http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7927 M.

29th July 2009, 05:05 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Michael, There should be some kind of dope, to administer to early barrels; to put them spitting out whether they acted as single or multi weapons . Fernando

29th July 2009, 06:47 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Brilliant idea, Fernando, These items are kinda addictive anyway ... Michael

30th July 2009, 04:23 PM	#8
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Exactly, my dear co-addict. Michael