Melanesian pole club?

fearn · 24th October 2008, 09:46 PM

Cool! Thanks Tim!

I'm glad you took the time to upload all of those plates. It really helps in understanding the text.

As for faceting a cone, I don't know how hard it would be for the woodworker. I do know that the two times I've tried to make an even octagon out of a dowel, I've failed miserably. That probably says more about my minimal woodworking abilities than anything else, but I do think that it's a little more difficult than it looks. The problem I ran into was keeping the facets even the length of the dowl.

I agree with you on the throwing stones. Those are neat. Wonder if any of those will show up in collections?

F

Tim Simmons · 6th April 2009, 09:52 PM

Just digging around and found this picture of a group of Samoans circa 1900. look at the club the chap has it the enlarged picture. looks like some kind of pole club.

fearn · 7th April 2009, 05:59 AM

Who's the blackbirder they are looking at?

Tim Simmons · 7th April 2009, 08:16 PM

It seems this is most definately a hanbo. I have been shown one new, of exactly the same form except no binding. I cannot show as it is on ebay. Well if you do not try

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pbleed · 8th April 2009, 02:36 AM

I have greatly enjoyed this literate and expert discussion. If this is a Japanese "bo" (and I doubt that it is) it would likely be Japanese red oak.
Peter

Tim Simmons · 10th April 2009, 03:53 PM

Thank you Peter.

I can compere it to this red oak heavy boken. It is quite different there is no oak like grain. The boken has a crude finish in comparrison. At my nearest shop for things like boken and other martial arts kit none seem to be polished. I do not know about old kit.

Tim Simmons · 11th April 2009, 04:00 PM

This is interesting. I think it is okay to make link like this. Micronesian, Caroline islands so the site says. What is worth note is the discription, the coir binding at the handle. Although called a spear it is only 10 inches longer than my club.

http://www.cinoa.org/exhibits/42804

6th April 2009, 09:52 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,934	Just digging around and found this picture of a group of Samoans circa 1900. look at the club the chap has it the enlarged picture. looks like some kind of pole club. Attached Images

8th April 2009, 02:36 AM	#5
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 89	a great thread I have greatly enjoyed this literate and expert discussion. If this is a Japanese "bo" (and I doubt that it is) it would likely be Japanese red oak. Peter

10th April 2009, 03:53 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,934	Thank you Peter. I can compere it to this red oak heavy boken. It is quite different there is no oak like grain. The boken has a crude finish in comparrison. At my nearest shop for things like boken and other martial arts kit none seem to be polished. I do not know about old kit. Attached Images

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24th October 2008, 09:46 PM	#1
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Cool! Thanks Tim! I'm glad you took the time to upload all of those plates. It really helps in understanding the text. As for faceting a cone, I don't know how hard it would be for the woodworker. I do know that the two times I've tried to make an even octagon out of a dowel, I've failed miserably. That probably says more about my minimal woodworking abilities than anything else, but I do think that it's a little more difficult than it looks. The problem I ran into was keeping the facets even the length of the dowl. I agree with you on the throwing stones. Those are neat. Wonder if any of those will show up in collections? F

7th April 2009, 05:59 AM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Who's the blackbirder they are looking at?

7th April 2009, 08:16 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,934	It seems this is most definately a hanbo. I have been shown one new, of exactly the same form except no binding. I cannot show as it is on ebay. Well if you do not try .

11th April 2009, 04:00 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,934	This is interesting. I think it is okay to make link like this. Micronesian, Caroline islands so the site says. What is worth note is the discription, the coir binding at the handle. Although called a spear it is only 10 inches longer than my club. http://www.cinoa.org/exhibits/42804