Ideas?

kai · 24th February 2008, 11:17 PM

Hello Alan,

Thanks for posting this puzzling piece! Any pic of its base with the hole?

How long is the hilt?

Regards,
Kai

A. G. Maisey · 24th February 2008, 11:58 PM

I could do a pic of the base and hole, Kai, but it won't tell you anything---its just a normal round base with a round hole. You'll learn absolutely nothing from the base.

Length is near enough to 10cm.

Marcokeris · 4th March 2008, 07:58 AM

Fom Holstein book (1931) another keris hilt with a similar posture

Gavin Nugent · 4th March 2008, 12:24 PM

Good morning forumites, just a theory, and my 2 cents worth, could these first 2 hilts pictured in the discussions have something to do with representing mourning rather than prayer? Saying that, there is obviously prayer within mourning in our societies, but these hilts look to me like there is some degree of sadness within the figures.

regards

Gavin

Rick · 6th March 2008, 03:32 PM

I like both these handles; I do see quite a difference between them; Alan's example could be a meditative or prayerful attitude .
Michel's reflects (to me) the gesture of (can't remember the term for it; anyone??) formal greeting where the body is slightly bent forward from the waist with the hands crossed over the heart .

I find the dress of the figure represented on Alan's handle to be quite intriguing; I wonder where it originated .

Tim Simmons · 14th March 2008, 08:58 PM

While watching TV, I came across this. Perhaps especially when thinking of the material {marine ivory?} you have something a little more special than a Keris handle. From the NY Met. Certainly the product of a specialist?

Pusaka · 15th March 2008, 10:30 PM

To me the posture looks the same as seen on many keris Sajen, a figure bent forward with hands crossed over the heart or navel.

4th March 2008, 07:58 AM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Fom Holstein book (1931) another keris hilt with a similar posture Attached Images

4th March 2008, 12:24 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	The hilts in question Good morning forumites, just a theory, and my 2 cents worth, could these first 2 hilts pictured in the discussions have something to do with representing mourning rather than prayer? Saying that, there is obviously prayer within mourning in our societies, but these hilts look to me like there is some degree of sadness within the figures. regards Gavin

14th March 2008, 08:58 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Perhaps? While watching TV, I came across this. Perhaps especially when thinking of the material {marine ivory?} you have something a little more special than a Keris handle. From the NY Met. Certainly the product of a specialist?

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24th February 2008, 11:17 PM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Alan, Thanks for posting this puzzling piece! Any pic of its base with the hole? How long is the hilt? Regards, Kai

24th February 2008, 11:58 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	I could do a pic of the base and hole, Kai, but it won't tell you anything---its just a normal round base with a round hole. You'll learn absolutely nothing from the base. Length is near enough to 10cm.

6th March 2008, 03:32 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I like both these handles; I do see quite a difference between them; Alan's example could be a meditative or prayerful attitude . Michel's reflects (to me) the gesture of (can't remember the term for it; anyone??) formal greeting where the body is slightly bent forward from the waist with the hands crossed over the heart . I find the dress of the figure represented on Alan's handle to be quite intriguing; I wonder where it originated .

15th March 2008, 10:30 PM	#7
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	To me the posture looks the same as seen on many keris Sajen, a figure bent forward with hands crossed over the heart or navel.