They called to say that my check cleared and......

Jim McDougall · 16th December 2007, 04:40 AM

Hello Kino,
Though I admit to knowing little on these weapons, I do recognize a fantastic grouping when I see one! I'd like to add my congratulations with the others, and thank you for sharing these with everyone here.
Very nicely done!

All the best,
Jim

kino · 16th December 2007, 06:54 PM

Carlos, I saw these pieces also in my dreams, I guess I dreamt har enough
for it to come true.
Rick, "genuflect" ,

Oh my! I don't know what to say...
DaveS I don't think you can cram anymore peices in your house You'll have
to get another or larger storage space.

Thanks for the congratulatory words all!

Most of the pieces are in excellent shape. The blades have no nicks, or signs of post battle sharpening.

Strange break on this piece. Tang broke and is still residing in the hilt. Blade is fine and surprisingly the Kakatua is still in pristine form with no chips.
Dimensions 7.25" length, 2.25" width.
Anyone have any experience in having the a tang reweld. My concern would be, adding extra material to the tang and not being able to fit it thru the hole of the ganja.

VVV · 16th December 2007, 07:16 PM

Thanks for sharing these great blades!!!!!

Is it a shandigan barong?

Michael

kino · 16th December 2007, 08:13 PM

Michael, It is a Shandigan Barung with a hollow ground 16.75" blade, the
sharpened top edge measures at 12".

VVV · 16th December 2007, 08:20 PM

Nice, nice, nice...

Michael

kai · 16th December 2007, 08:24 PM

Hello Albert,

A shandigan barong with sharpened backedge, pira with genuine, antique scabbard, rare tabas, and other magnificient blades - great score!

Quote:

Strange break on this piece. Tang broke and is still residing in the hilt.

Seems like it snapped fairly recently - possibly during some transport. Apparently, the tang had already an old crack through more than 2 thirds of its diameter: Sorrily, not much force needed to break it off completely...

Quote:

Anyone have any experience in having the a tang reweld. My concern would be, adding extra material to the tang and not being able to fit it thru the hole of the ganja.

The battle-tested Moro method would call for serious stock removal from the blade as well as gangya - I don't think this is really called for with such a great twist core blade. Rewelding tangs is fairly regularly done with Indonesian keris: If you're willing to temporarely remove the gangya, I believe this shouldn't pose a serious problem for an experienced bladesmith to replace the tang and refile its shape so that the gangya can be snugly reattached again. This should hold perfectly well but won't be stable enough for real use, I guess.

Regards,
Kai

kino · 17th December 2007, 01:07 PM

Thanks Kai. I'll show the broken tang to the local knife maker to see if he's
up to the job.

Bill M · 17th December 2007, 01:25 PM

Just realized I had been too busy drooling over this thread to post!!!!

Great score Albert, and a really deserving guy to get these fine pieces.

I have head that an epoxy called “JB Weld” has been successfully used in repairing metal.

I have not used this, but have friends in ancient weapon collecting who have been very pleased by the results. Of course it won’t stand up to battle standards, but it might be good enough for display and normal handling.

If it does not work, you could then try a blacksmith. I try to disturb old metal as little as possible.

http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php

Has anyone here used it?

kino · 18th December 2007, 04:31 AM

Thanks Bill, I will keep this in mind. I don't want to rush things. The Kris is going nowhere fast. I'm not going to be doing some test cutting with the sword either.

David · 18th December 2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

I have head that an epoxy called “JB Weld” has been successfully used in repairing metal.

I have not used this, but have friends in ancient weapon collecting who have been very pleased by the results. Of course it won’t stand up to battle standards, but it might be good enough for display and normal handling.

If it does not work, you could then try a blacksmith. I try to disturb old metal as little as possible.

http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php

Has anyone here used it?

Bill, i have used JB Weld to repair a broken gonjo and it worked just fine...but i don't think i would use it in a situation like this unless i planned never to draw the blade from the sheath again. I am not convince it would hold all that weight that well.

Battara · 21st December 2007, 07:28 PM

Albert, I bow in your presence!

16th December 2007, 06:54 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Carlos, I saw these pieces also in my dreams, I guess I dreamt har enough for it to come true. Rick, "genuflect" , Oh my! I don't know what to say... DaveS I don't think you can cram anymore peices in your house You'll have to get another or larger storage space. Thanks for the congratulatory words all! Most of the pieces are in excellent shape. The blades have no nicks, or signs of post battle sharpening. Strange break on this piece. Tang broke and is still residing in the hilt. Blade is fine and surprisingly the Kakatua is still in pristine form with no chips. Dimensions 7.25" length, 2.25" width. Anyone have any experience in having the a tang reweld. My concern would be, adding extra material to the tang and not being able to fit it thru the hole of the ganja. Attached Images

17th December 2007, 01:25 PM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Just realized I had been too busy drooling over this thread to post!!!! Great score Albert, and a really deserving guy to get these fine pieces. I have head that an epoxy called “JB Weld” has been successfully used in repairing metal. I have not used this, but have friends in ancient weapon collecting who have been very pleased by the results. Of course it won’t stand up to battle standards, but it might be good enough for display and normal handling. If it does not work, you could then try a blacksmith. I try to disturb old metal as little as possible. http://jbweld.net/products/jbweld.php Has anyone here used it? Last edited by Bill Marsh; 17th December 2007 at 01:37 PM.

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16th December 2007, 04:40 AM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,459	Hello Kino, Though I admit to knowing little on these weapons, I do recognize a fantastic grouping when I see one! I'd like to add my congratulations with the others, and thank you for sharing these with everyone here. Very nicely done! All the best, Jim

16th December 2007, 07:16 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for sharing these great blades!!!!! Is it a shandigan barong? Michael

16th December 2007, 08:13 PM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Michael, It is a Shandigan Barung with a hollow ground 16.75" blade, the sharpened top edge measures at 12".

16th December 2007, 08:20 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice, nice, nice... Michael

17th December 2007, 01:07 PM	#7
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Thanks Kai. I'll show the broken tang to the local knife maker to see if he's up to the job.

18th December 2007, 04:31 AM	#9
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Thanks Bill, I will keep this in mind. I don't want to rush things. The Kris is going nowhere fast. I'm not going to be doing some test cutting with the sword either.

21st December 2007, 07:28 PM	#11
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Albert, I bow in your presence!