JUST BOUGHT A PATA

Jim McDougall · 18th November 2007, 08:56 PM

Hi Fernando,
Bravo!!! A magnificent old warrior!!
I'm with Jens on his assessment and his note suggesting the most likely provenance of Maratha regions into the Deccan well placed. While I agree this mounting is probably 18th century, possibly very early 19th, I am inclined to think that blade is earlier. It seems narrow enough to be a military style rapier blade, which would take it into the 17th c. As you well know, the Portuguese provided blades to Maratha traders, as noted in Daehnhardt. The rounded spatulate point also emphasizes the Maratha use of these weapons in slashing technique.
The 'tired' look only magnifies the historic prestige of this warrior!!
Nicely done again Fernando

All the best,
Jim

In echoing Jens' questions...are there any marks, and I'm assuming that is a double edged blade.

fernando · 18th November 2007, 10:22 PM

Hi Jens and Jim
Thank you for your kind coments.
An old warrior allright. Quite a few wounds, with one being a serious perforation. The others are just scars, as it seems the gauntlet construction is double ply.
No, no marks that i can see. Neither holes for inner lining.
The blade is double edged in all its extension. Quite thin and narrow, 2,5 cms. at forte.There is a central fuller, extending to within 4,5 cms outside the fixation plates (can i call them that?). Its tempering might not be the best, it is a bit bent.
Thanks again Gentlemen.

katana · 18th November 2007, 11:03 PM

Nice Pata Fernando

.....battle scarred, well used....just the way I like my weapons to be

Regards David

fernando · 18th November 2007, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana

Nice Pata Fernando

.....battle scarred, well used....just the way I like my weapons to be

Regards David

"Ta" David

( is this how you spell it?)
Fernando

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18th November 2007, 08:56 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,685	Hi Fernando, Bravo!!! A magnificent old warrior!! I'm with Jens on his assessment and his note suggesting the most likely provenance of Maratha regions into the Deccan well placed. While I agree this mounting is probably 18th century, possibly very early 19th, I am inclined to think that blade is earlier. It seems narrow enough to be a military style rapier blade, which would take it into the 17th c. As you well know, the Portuguese provided blades to Maratha traders, as noted in Daehnhardt. The rounded spatulate point also emphasizes the Maratha use of these weapons in slashing technique. The 'tired' look only magnifies the historic prestige of this warrior!! Nicely done again Fernando All the best, Jim In echoing Jens' questions...are there any marks, and I'm assuming that is a double edged blade.

18th November 2007, 10:22 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Jens and Jim Thank you for your kind coments. An old warrior allright. Quite a few wounds, with one being a serious perforation. The others are just scars, as it seems the gauntlet construction is double ply. No, no marks that i can see. Neither holes for inner lining. The blade is double edged in all its extension. Quite thin and narrow, 2,5 cms. at forte.There is a central fuller, extending to within 4,5 cms outside the fixation plates (can i call them that?). Its tempering might not be the best, it is a bit bent. Thanks again Gentlemen.

18th November 2007, 11:03 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Nice Pata Fernando .....battle scarred, well used....just the way I like my weapons to be Regards David