A long Piso

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2007, 05:58 PM

Engraving on the back. What is it? is it shown the right way round?

More close ups of blade. The back of the blade is at the bottom of the picture.

Any comments? tell me more about it?

galvano · 31st August 2007, 06:41 PM

engraving is
" manufacture nationale de klingenthal " making by " Couleau "
in europe we have many blades from Couleau
galvano

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2007, 07:37 PM

Galvano that is so helpful I can see it now, how fascinating! I cannot tell which period according to this link

http://users.skynet.be/euro-swords/klingenthal.htm

I did not know there was any French influence in Sumatra/Borneo. The big question is was the blade made in a manner that appealed to the region or were the blades finished in a standard European fashion and then altered with etching by and to suit the new owners?

I think I have some pictures of Sumatra mounted warrior I will look them out and post them.

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2007, 07:51 PM

Well you learn something everyday. I was well aware of French Indochina but now consderable trade and influence in Sumatra and there abouts. The Brits may as we are told have had a bigger slice of the cake but the French had very often got there first. Respect

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2007, 08:16 PM

Making limited research using the PC, this blade is likely to be from the early part of the 19th century?

Tim Simmons · 31st August 2007, 08:35 PM

Sorry to keep banging on about this but I am finding these things out as I handle it. I think these blades were definitely made by the French to appeal to the local taste. The fact that there is little to no acid attack on the engraving to the back of the blade at the forte bares this out.

galvano · 31st August 2007, 10:14 PM

it is 19th century.
galvano

31st August 2007, 05:58 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	More close up Engraving on the back. What is it? is it shown the right way round? More close ups of blade. The back of the blade is at the bottom of the picture. Any comments? tell me more about it?

31st August 2007, 06:41 PM	#2
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	hi all engraving is " manufacture nationale de klingenthal " making by " Couleau " in europe we have many blades from Couleau galvano

31st August 2007, 08:35 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Sorry to keep banging on about this but I am finding these things out as I handle it. I think these blades were definitely made by the French to appeal to the local taste. The fact that there is little to no acid attack on the engraving to the back of the blade at the forte bares this out. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 31st August 2007 at 09:11 PM.

31st August 2007, 10:14 PM	#7
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	couleaux frére it is 19th century. galvano

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31st August 2007, 07:37 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Galvano that is so helpful I can see it now, how fascinating! I cannot tell which period according to this link http://users.skynet.be/euro-swords/klingenthal.htm I did not know there was any French influence in Sumatra/Borneo. The big question is was the blade made in a manner that appealed to the region or were the blades finished in a standard European fashion and then altered with etching by and to suit the new owners? I think I have some pictures of Sumatra mounted warrior I will look them out and post them.

31st August 2007, 07:51 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Well you learn something everyday. I was well aware of French Indochina but now consderable trade and influence in Sumatra and there abouts. The Brits may as we are told have had a bigger slice of the cake but the French had very often got there first. Respect

31st August 2007, 08:16 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Making limited research using the PC, this blade is likely to be from the early part of the 19th century?