Latest Saka knife.

Tim Simmons · 22nd May 2007, 09:57 PM

I received this today and I only show it here for those who struggle to see machismo in African work. The thrusting tip on this knife is 9mm thick it also looks kind of groovy

. I had to do bit of an art job on the handle as it was broken on arrival. Reminds me of all that Indo/persian stuff.

Freddy · 23rd May 2007, 08:29 PM

Nice job, Tim. I can't see anything of the repair.

Here's one of my Saka knives. The pattern on the blade is a bit different, but it also has a thick point.
I wonder whether this was meant to be used against armour. I know some tribes wore a kind of armour made from leather.

Tim Simmons · 23rd May 2007, 09:23 PM

I can only assume that it is a blade for forcing a hole in something more than a soft bodied creature.

katana · 23rd May 2007, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

I wonder whether this was meant to be used against armour. I know some tribes wore a kind of armour made from leather.

Freddy I thought that several tribes (mainly Western Africa) had scale (bronze/brass) armour....

Freddy · 24th May 2007, 08:50 AM

Yes, some also use chain mail coats.

But in Congo, leather armour exists. I'll post a picture later.

Tim Simmons · 24th May 2007, 04:30 PM

It would be easy to make some armour from plant fibres, like hanging a door mat from your neck.

Flavio · 24th May 2007, 05:15 PM

Hi guys, take a look at this one: this lobala dagger (Congo) is attached to the armor in very thick leather that protects the back of the carrier. I have seen de visu this piece and it is enough impressive!

Tim Simmons · 24th May 2007, 09:40 PM

Great picture Flavio. It would seem that this is an armour piercing knife. If a warrior delivered enough force to make a hole. The rest of the knife with sharp expanding edges would open it even more. This was another gamble buy. This time I rather fancy lady luck was on my side. Sweet

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Luc LEFEBVRE · 24th May 2007, 11:37 PM

Here the one I have. Small one : 34 cm
Nice handle.
Luc

Tim Simmons · 25th May 2007, 07:46 AM

Very nice perfect condition. I forgot to mention size, 48cm.

Freddy · 26th May 2007, 06:46 PM

The big one I showed previously measures 45 cm.

And here's a small one, only measuring 27,5 cm.

Tim Simmons · 4th June 2007, 02:34 PM

This took some time, I think I have gone far enough or have I over done it?

katana · 4th June 2007, 04:49 PM

Looks good to me

Lew · 4th June 2007, 04:49 PM

Tim nice but I think you slightly over cleaned it. For some reason American collectors like to see more age on a weapon where I find most European collectors like cleaner looking blades. The later is based on the fact that Africans always kept there weapons polished so the European collectors just do the same.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 4th June 2007, 06:31 PM

Yes Lew, it is a bit bright but I have only just finished. In time it will mellow. As I accquired this example at a very low price I thought I had nothing to loose. I will try and post a picture of the example that inspired me to meddle further than usual.

Tim Simmons · 6th June 2007, 09:21 AM

Lew, I think this might be a better picture.

22nd May 2007, 09:57 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Latest Saka knife. I received this today and I only show it here for those who struggle to see machismo in African work. The thrusting tip on this knife is 9mm thick it also looks kind of groovy . I had to do bit of an art job on the handle as it was broken on arrival. Reminds me of all that Indo/persian stuff.

24th May 2007, 05:15 PM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi guys, take a look at this one: this lobala dagger (Congo) is attached to the armor in very thick leather that protects the back of the carrier. I have seen de visu this piece and it is enough impressive! Attached Images

24th May 2007, 11:37 PM	#9
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Here the one I have. Small one : 34 cm Nice handle. Luc Attached Images

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23rd May 2007, 08:29 PM	#2
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Nice job, Tim. I can't see anything of the repair. Here's one of my Saka knives. The pattern on the blade is a bit different, but it also has a thick point. I wonder whether this was meant to be used against armour. I know some tribes wore a kind of armour made from leather.

23rd May 2007, 09:23 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I can only assume that it is a blade for forcing a hole in something more than a soft bodied creature.

24th May 2007, 08:50 AM	#5
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Yes, some also use chain mail coats. But in Congo, leather armour exists. I'll post a picture later.

24th May 2007, 04:30 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	It would be easy to make some armour from plant fibres, like hanging a door mat from your neck.

24th May 2007, 09:40 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Great picture Flavio. It would seem that this is an armour piercing knife. If a warrior delivered enough force to make a hole. The rest of the knife with sharp expanding edges would open it even more. This was another gamble buy. This time I rather fancy lady luck was on my side. Sweet .

25th May 2007, 07:46 AM	#10
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Very nice perfect condition. I forgot to mention size, 48cm.

26th May 2007, 06:46 PM	#11
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	The big one I showed previously measures 45 cm. And here's a small one, only measuring 27,5 cm.

4th June 2007, 02:34 PM	#12
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	This took some time, I think I have gone far enough or have I over done it?

4th June 2007, 04:49 PM	#13
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Looks good to me

4th June 2007, 04:49 PM	#14
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim nice but I think you slightly over cleaned it. For some reason American collectors like to see more age on a weapon where I find most European collectors like cleaner looking blades. The later is based on the fact that Africans always kept there weapons polished so the European collectors just do the same. Lew

4th June 2007, 06:31 PM	#15
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Yes Lew, it is a bit bright but I have only just finished. In time it will mellow. As I accquired this example at a very low price I thought I had nothing to loose. I will try and post a picture of the example that inspired me to meddle further than usual.

6th June 2007, 09:21 AM	#16
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Lew, I think this might be a better picture.