Old kind of Mandau scabbard from Kutei

VVV · 16th May 2007, 11:52 AM

So sorry Willem,

I only remembered that thread as discussing the hilts.

Ariel, the plug is made of resin (damar). Some have it and some don't.
I don't think it's an age indicator. Maybe an indicator of condition?

Michael

Dajak · 16th May 2007, 06:38 PM

Hi All there missing the damar on the end off the handle mostly did get lost and not replaced
There are some very old ones that has not been decorated
I personally think that the early one s had not much decoration
and that they started later with decoration

asomotif · 18th May 2007, 08:47 AM

Michael,

When would you say a mandau is from koetei ?
The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ?

I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now.

Dajak · 18th May 2007, 09:10 AM

Willem opschepper LOL

Ben

asomotif · 18th May 2007, 12:20 PM

Hi Ben !
English please ?!

Some more pictures of my very special, very rare, perfect condition, guaranteed pre 1900's, koetei mandau

Ps. Ben, how is the spear collection ?

Best regards,
Willem

Dajak · 19th May 2007, 07:05 AM

Hi Willem congratulations with your birthday

The spear collection is nice I have an rare murut spear and a few nice philipinne spears addit to my collection

you have an nice collection off koetei mandau s

That last one is one off the best

Ben

VVV · 20th May 2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Michael,

When would you say a mandau is from koetei ?
The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ?

I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now.

Nice scabbards Willem!

On your question the hilt is of course a good tell.
The rattan stick along the scabbard is according to my experience more of an age indicator.

Michael

Dajak · 11th March 2015, 02:09 AM

The Rattan stick is used as protection for the sharp blade and not only from the koetei area.

Ben

kai · 11th March 2015, 04:54 AM

Hello Ben,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

The Rattan stick is used as protection for the sharp blade and not only from the koetei area.

Yes, also very common for old-style scabbards from Negara.

Any other examples of such scabbards from other regions/tribes?

Regards,
Kai

Maurice · 11th March 2015, 09:36 AM

The old style scabbards from Negara often had a carved "look-a-like" stick like the ones from Kutai, not a real one.

Best,
Maurice

18th May 2007, 08:47 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Michael, When would you say a mandau is from koetei ? The rattanstrip on the scabbard. or the style of the handle or the combination ? I have 4 scabbards with rattan strips now. Attached Images

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asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Hi Ben ! English please ?! Some more pictures of my very special, very rare, perfect condition, guaranteed pre 1900's, koetei mandau Ps. Ben, how is the spear collection ? Best regards, Willem Attached Images

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16th May 2007, 11:52 AM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	So sorry Willem, I only remembered that thread as discussing the hilts. Ariel, the plug is made of resin (damar). Some have it and some don't. I don't think it's an age indicator. Maybe an indicator of condition? Michael

16th May 2007, 06:38 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi All there missing the damar on the end off the handle mostly did get lost and not replaced There are some very old ones that has not been decorated I personally think that the early one s had not much decoration and that they started later with decoration

18th May 2007, 09:10 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Willem opschepper LOL Ben

19th May 2007, 07:05 AM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem congratulations with your birthday The spear collection is nice I have an rare murut spear and a few nice philipinne spears addit to my collection you have an nice collection off koetei mandau s That last one is one off the best Ben

11th March 2015, 02:09 AM	#8
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	The Rattan stick is used as protection for the sharp blade and not only from the koetei area. Ben

11th March 2015, 09:36 AM	#10
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	The old style scabbards from Negara often had a carved "look-a-like" stick like the ones from Kutai, not a real one. Best, Maurice