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|  7th November 2006, 05:33 PM | #3 | 
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			The date is something like 123*, which translates into 182*. This seems to be an imitation of european military swords (?). The text in the first plate is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise from its true direction. Concerning the provenance - I think this is not Ottoman, XIXth century borders. My guess is as good as any, but I would wait for more knowledgeble people to take on this thread. | 
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