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Old 25th February 2026, 08:31 PM   #1
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Paintings and miniatures of this period from France and England sometimes include depictions of trefoil pommels, sometimes in combination with the curved guards also seen in Spain (and the Jerpoint stone above).

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13th and 14th century seal matrices are a good source for hilt variants. Among these, the seal of Charles of Anjou is perhaps the the clearest depiction of a fleur-de-lys pommel, as befits a member of French royalty. The seal and coins of the Latin emperor, Philip of Courtenay are similar.

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Particularly in Italian art, the trefoil form is sometimes abstracted and more resembles three conjoined discs or globes. This style also seems to be shown on some seals, like that of James III of Mallorca.

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Old 25th February 2026, 08:35 PM   #2
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Swords with elaborately curled guards often appear in Spanish art, more often with discoid pommels, but lobed forms appear too, as in the effigy of Prince Felipe of Castle (d. 1274). Usually the curvature is towards the blade, but the reverse is also seen, as in the Alluye effigy.

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While the style may be originally Andalusian, similar swords are shown used by both Christians and Muslims, even alternately appearing in either the hands of St. James the Moorslayer or his foes.

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In addition to the swords from Seville and Alava shared already, at least one more "early jineta"-type sword, was found near the Templar church in Tomar, Portugal. Regarding the Alava sword, a researcher has recently shared his preliminary findings which suggest the blade is in fact the first known example of an VLFBERHT inscription from Spain. His presentation is available on Youtube:

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Old 25th February 2026, 10:19 PM   #3
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These are all extremely helpful. The effigy in the second reply is essentially my last missing piece to this puzzle, besides the belt. Thank you very much for your reply, Mark!

I do just want to let you know that some of the images seem to not have loaded correctly.

Edit: Whoops, that seems to have been a problem on my end. All fixed now!

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Old 7th March 2026, 04:08 AM   #4
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Just to add to this thread- here is an interesting sword from the Testament of Alfonso II, from the Book of Testaments, early 12th century.
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Old 7th March 2026, 02:27 PM   #5
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I find that my sword
Looks a little like these swords.
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Old 12th March 2026, 11:31 PM   #6
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I remember your Thread, Almonzo. That's a very interesting sword!

I have still to get to the foundational literature on Spanish arms, but I would be a little surprised if that sword was Spanish, or from 13th century Europe in general. However, with that said, you do see small curved guards slightly similar to that in, for instance, the El Puig altarpiece.
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