Albanese khanjar, translation calligraphy

[serdar]

Originally Posted by Klop

Dear members,

a friend of mine acquired this very nice, most likely Albanian khanjar. Happy for him

At the base of the blade there is some gold arabic calligraphy on one side, searching your help for the translation. If there is a year number I don't see it...

Also the scabbard seems to have a silver proof, maybe this indicates a region or timeframe?

thanks in advance,
Eric.

Hy, that is a sultans thugra which was placed by goldsmiths for purity of silver, which specific thugra is i dont know it is very hard to seriously tell, it looks like Mahmud 2, but no one serious could caim that it is.

About "writing" my translator who is a profesor of ottoman turkish and persian cant read anything, there are leters but they dont make anything, there is a lot of "giberish" writing, very few smiths were able to write in those days.

But one question, why everyone call this type of ottoman dagger Albanian!?

I never ever heard from any collector or person from Albania that this is albanian dagger.
Most albanian daggers had a silver hilt, not ivory, and not this style.

[Pertinax]

Originally Posted by serdar

Hy, that is a sultans thugra which was placed by goldsmiths for purity of silver, which specific thugra is i dont know it is very hard to seriously tell, it looks like Mahmud 2, but no one serious could caim that it is.

About "writing" my translator who is a profesor of ottoman turkish and persian cant read anything, there are leters but they dont make anything, there is a lot of "giberish" writing, very few smiths were able to write in those days.

But one question, why everyone call this type of ottoman dagger Albanian!?

I never ever heard from any collector or person from Albania that this is albanian dagger.
Most albanian daggers had a silver hilt, not ivory, and not this style.

I agree.

The handle shape is Ottoman.

[Klop]

thanks gents!

About the Albanian attribution, I think it's a parrot thing; we hear and see it everywhere so it becomes common practice to copy it - without knowing or even thinking about whether it's right or wrong.

Kind regards,
Eric