Thoughs on this one Philippines ?

RhysMichael · 24th July 2006, 02:41 AM

This is a remounted bayonet. The blade is Japanese made by national denki under Kokura supervision. The question I have is who did the remount. Do you think this hilt and scabbard point to Philippine, Indonesian or somewhere else ? Thanks in advance for any ideas

VANDOO · 24th July 2006, 03:31 AM

I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY PHILIPPINE MOST LIKELY VISAYAN ISLANDS , FAIRLY NICE WORK SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE MIGHT BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN A BIT IF THEY RECOGNIZE THE CARVING STYLE ON THE SCABBARD. A NICE ITEM! GOOD LUCK

Ian · 24th July 2006, 04:40 AM

Full length tang and bat head pommel suggest Batangas origin (S. Luzon).

Ian.

RhysMichael · 24th July 2006, 05:30 PM

Thanks to both of you.

LabanTayo · 26th July 2006, 04:06 AM

is the bayonet WWII?
if it is, it might help determine age.
its definetely from the Philippines as the above have stated.

Spunjer · 26th July 2006, 04:23 AM

yo labantayo, the kris in your avatar is missing the incised arrow. i think it's defective. i wouldn't mind having it tho. kthxbye...

RhysMichael · 26th July 2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LabanTayo

is the bayonet WWII?
if it is, it might help determine age.
its definetely from the Philippines as the above have stated.

Best I can find it is what is called a type 30 bayonet( but I know almost nothing about bayonets). While this form was used as early as 1897 and until WWII end; Kokura only made them from 1936 to 1945. So were I to put an age on this one I would say most likely WWII

LabanTayo · 26th July 2006, 04:14 PM

spunjer,
i tried to get my money back for the holes in the blade, but the guy wouldnt do it.

john,
i would say that its from Bicol, or southern Luzon area.
cool piece!!!

zelbone · 26th July 2006, 05:21 PM

Bicol...

RhysMichael · 26th July 2006, 06:22 PM

Great stuff thanks again

24th July 2006, 02:41 AM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Thoughs on this one Philippines ? This is a remounted bayonet. The blade is Japanese made by national denki under Kokura supervision. The question I have is who did the remount. Do you think this hilt and scabbard point to Philippine, Indonesian or somewhere else ? Thanks in advance for any ideas

24th July 2006, 04:40 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Nice find, John ... Full length tang and bat head pommel suggest Batangas origin (S. Luzon). Ian.

26th July 2006, 05:21 PM	#9
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Bicol... Attached Images

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24th July 2006, 03:31 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY PHILIPPINE MOST LIKELY VISAYAN ISLANDS , FAIRLY NICE WORK SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE MIGHT BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN A BIT IF THEY RECOGNIZE THE CARVING STYLE ON THE SCABBARD. A NICE ITEM! GOOD LUCK

24th July 2006, 05:30 PM	#4
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Thanks to both of you.

26th July 2006, 04:06 AM	#5
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	is the bayonet WWII? if it is, it might help determine age. its definetely from the Philippines as the above have stated.

26th July 2006, 04:23 AM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yo labantayo, the kris in your avatar is missing the incised arrow. i think it's defective. i wouldn't mind having it tho. kthxbye...

26th July 2006, 04:14 PM	#8
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	spunjer, i tried to get my money back for the holes in the blade, but the guy wouldnt do it. john, i would say that its from Bicol, or southern Luzon area. cool piece!!!

26th July 2006, 06:22 PM	#10
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Great stuff thanks again