Javanese Kriss in Savu dress

Sajen · 27th April 2025, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Athanase

No, it is purchase by a french dealer, who collect many blades and textils in timor archipelago in 70s, 80s and 90s.

Like said before, it's a most interesting dagger!

David · Yesterday, 03:32 PM

I think this probably belongs on the Keris Forum despite its non-traditional dress, so i am transferring it over there.
It is an older keris, but i don't think it dates back to Mojopahit. The fact that the gonjo is missing make it even harder to place in a period.

A. G. Maisey · Yesterday, 11:43 PM

Yes David, I agree with you, this is definitely not a keris that would fit into Majapahit parameters, the main thing that excludes it from a Mojo classification is that the blumbangan is square, this is a Mataram indicator, specific as well as generic.

It might be worth remembering that Javanese blades were traded & shipped all over SE Asia from Majapahit times through into at least the 18th century, & possibly later. They were even shipped to Sri Lanka and Southern India.

It is not at all unusual to find a Javanese blade of any style in dress from a place other than Jawa.

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Yesterday, 03:32 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I think this probably belongs on the Keris Forum despite its non-traditional dress, so i am transferring it over there. It is an older keris, but i don't think it dates back to Mojopahit. The fact that the gonjo is missing make it even harder to place in a period.

Yesterday, 11:43 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Yes David, I agree with you, this is definitely not a keris that would fit into Majapahit parameters, the main thing that excludes it from a Mojo classification is that the blumbangan is square, this is a Mataram indicator, specific as well as generic. It might be worth remembering that Javanese blades were traded & shipped all over SE Asia from Majapahit times through into at least the 18th century, & possibly later. They were even shipped to Sri Lanka and Southern India. It is not at all unusual to find a Javanese blade of any style in dress from a place other than Jawa.