Identification Assistance Requested - New Collector

A. G. Maisey · 29th November 2023, 06:59 AM

I have not seen a lot of museum collections that feature carvings of the singa, maybe a few in the National Gallery of Australia, a few in Balinese museums, but I have nearly 60 years worth of visits to Bali, and I have seen more carvings of the singa than I could possibly count. All quality levels, all ages, numerous variations.

Gustav · 29th November 2023, 03:35 PM

Just to illustrate how big the distance is of this figure from classical Balinese Singo.

Now I remember where I did see such big and erect ears on Balinese carvings - on monkey masks.

Jean · 29th November 2023, 04:34 PM

IMO the carved winged animal on the gandik does not depict a singa but Garuda, see what it is holding in its front legs (snake or turtle?) and compare with the attached image from the Tropenmuseum.
Regards

Gustav · 29th November 2023, 06:48 PM

A depiction of turtle as a base of another figure is not uncommon at all on Gandhik of Balinese Keris, but I have yet to see an authentic Garuda depiction on an old Balinese Keris.

A. G. Maisey · 29th November 2023, 07:07 PM

That's a nice pic Gustav.

So the figure on the keris is in your opinion a depiction of Garuda?

Is that correct?

Can you please tell us why you have formed this opinion?

Gustav · 29th November 2023, 07:09 PM

Alan, no, that was Jean's opinion.

A. G. Maisey · 29th November 2023, 07:41 PM

Sorry Gustav.

Please accept my apologies.

Jean, could I redirect my question to you?

That's a nice pic Jean.

So the figure on the keris is in your opinion a depiction of Garuda?

Is that correct?

Can you please tell us why you have formed this opinion?

29th November 2023, 03:35 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Just to illustrate how big the distance is of this figure from classical Balinese Singo. Now I remember where I did see such big and erect ears on Balinese carvings - on monkey masks. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 29th November 2023 at 03:50 PM.

29th November 2023, 04:34 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	IMO the carved winged animal on the gandik does not depict a singa but Garuda, see what it is holding in its front legs (snake or turtle?) and compare with the attached image from the Tropenmuseum. Regards Attached Images

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29th November 2023, 06:59 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	I have not seen a lot of museum collections that feature carvings of the singa, maybe a few in the National Gallery of Australia, a few in Balinese museums, but I have nearly 60 years worth of visits to Bali, and I have seen more carvings of the singa than I could possibly count. All quality levels, all ages, numerous variations.

29th November 2023, 06:48 PM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	A depiction of turtle as a base of another figure is not uncommon at all on Gandhik of Balinese Keris, but I have yet to see an authentic Garuda depiction on an old Balinese Keris.

29th November 2023, 07:07 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	That's a nice pic Gustav. So the figure on the keris is in your opinion a depiction of Garuda? Is that correct? Can you please tell us why you have formed this opinion?

29th November 2023, 07:09 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Alan, no, that was Jean's opinion.

29th November 2023, 07:41 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Sorry Gustav. Please accept my apologies. Jean, could I redirect my question to you? That's a nice pic Jean. So the figure on the keris is in your opinion a depiction of Garuda? Is that correct? Can you please tell us why you have formed this opinion?