Lumad kris

tanaruz · 29th August 2023, 10:13 AM

Hello friends,

Just arrived from Puerto Princesa, Palawan. A lumad (Palawan'on) kris.

OAL: 26.5 inches/ blade: 20.75 inches.

Enjoy and kind regards,

Yves

Note: the rope on the hilt (typical of Palawan'on and lumad style).

xasterix · 29th August 2023, 11:12 AM

I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Sajen · 30th August 2023, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xasterix

The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef

xasterix · 30th August 2023, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef

Halloo Detlef! Yes, that one exactly

Gavin Nugent · 4th September 2023, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xasterix

I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Is this sampir, if that's the right word to use in this context, isn't this style known to Jolo too?

Jerseyman · 4th September 2023, 03:17 PM

I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?

I'll dig it out soon and post it with better pictures and dimensions.

Sajen · 4th September 2023, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerseyman

I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?

Hello Philip,

short answer: yes!

Regards,
Detlef

kino · 4th September 2023, 07:27 PM

Under Cato’s classification, a Maranao blade with a Lumad hilt.

Battara · 5th September 2023, 01:03 AM

Not unusual to have a Moro blade in Lumad fittings.

Better pictures would be helpful.

29th August 2023, 10:13 AM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 271	Lumad kris Hello friends, Just arrived from Puerto Princesa, Palawan. A lumad (Palawan'on) kris. OAL: 26.5 inches/ blade: 20.75 inches. Enjoy and kind regards, Yves Note: the rope on the hilt (typical of Palawan'on and lumad style). Attached Images

4th September 2023, 03:17 PM	#6
Jerseyman Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 97	Another Lumad Kris I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris? I'll dig it out soon and post it with better pictures and dimensions. Attached Images

4th September 2023, 07:27 PM	#8
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,016	Under Cato’s classification, a Maranao blade with a Lumad hilt. Attached Images

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29th August 2023, 11:12 AM	#2
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 667	I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

5th September 2023, 01:03 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Not unusual to have a Moro blade in Lumad fittings. Better pictures would be helpful.