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Looks like the name of the owner. Nayef ibn AbdulAziz.. a common name in the region so hard to know who.
As for the stub on the pommel, that actually not the place for the ring, that usually holds a stone. |
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Its made by the same guy who made this one :-)
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So many very nice old saifs. I am really enjoying this thread.
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Thank you for taking the time and for your info on my Saif. Is the maker the person you thought it may have been i.e. Sulaiman ibn Bani or is it someone else? I would love to Know. Regards Miguel |
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These are all hand crafted, unlike some later work shops that use some printing/pressed silver methods when making certain parts. Hopefully my research once published it will pinpoint the work of all identifiable swordmaker. |
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Hello Mr Alnakkas,
Is the name Mohammed bin Bani, in the 1920's, familiar to you? I think I have it on one of these saifs. Regards Richard |
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Do you have any item with his name and a date? |
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Yes, I have a saif of this type signed on the back of the scabbard (but this is my translation) Amal Mohammed bin Bani and dated, elsewhere on the scabbard AH 1341. Do I surmise from earlier comments that this was probably made in Hail?
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OK, thanks for the info. I will give it a bit of a rub over and try and take some photo's. Don't expect too much too soon tho!, altho' the saif is a very nice one.
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OK, Mr Alnakkas,
Eventually, if I can master the technology, |
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here is a sword in my collection with a rather illusive maker. This is the only sword I saw with his name and no one seems to know him. Sword dates to 1936 and was in a rough condition but was restored by a professional.
There are a few oddities about this piece compared to other saifs, that includes thicker silver dress and the use of deer horn. The original was in a very rough shape, basically crumbles when held so the maker got a new horn and made it in exact dimensions. Everything was perfect except for a simple discolouration that I thought is acceptable since its natural. |
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This is the last sword I have posted, showing close ups of the craftsmanship. One of the best I know of, the engraving on the silver is very high quality.
The silver seems bright, that because this sword was recently restored as it was in horrid condition, to say the least. |
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Hello,
I have another one. This has an unmarked and unfullered watered blade. I am hoping Lotfy or Ibrahim will be again generous enough to give me a translation. On the bottom of the locket, beneath the bands of script and just above the mount for the ring is, I think, the makers name. Many thanks for any help received. Regards Richard |
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Lotfy, another one with a short chape.
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Nice earlier saif, Richard. I am very interested in seeing better images of the maker's name. As this is slightly earlier it will be immensely appreciated if the maker's name is shown.
As for the script in the locket, these generally have generic script although sometimes the owner's name too. Your's say's "For its owner a long life and good health" which is very common on this variation. This type I date as earlier due to photographic evidence. And have tracked some makers. |
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Thank you Lotfy,
Sorry for the delay, I have had problems with the last update on the PC. Anyway here they are:- Nos 1 & 2 are on the front of the scabbard. Nos 3 & 4 which should be reversed, if you see what I mean, are on the reverse (seamed) side of the scabbard. Last edited by Richard G; 14th December 2015 at 02:46 PM. |
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Can you email the photos, I need high definition ones to zoom in. |
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Wow! that was quick. I'll try.
Richard PS. Have sent a PM Last edited by Richard G; 14th December 2015 at 03:01 PM. |
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Saif made in the city of Ha'il. Blade is European? there is latin script on it that I cannot read.
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Dear friends,
Would someone be willing to confirm the determination of this saif saber? It seems to be a 20th century production. An Arab friend helped me translate the inscription on the blade: ،،، السيف عزة مجد أنت قابضها ،،، ،،، وعزة المجد لا تأتيك بالوهن ،،، ،،، ففي السيوف دفاع العرب والوطن ،،، The sword is the height of glory, O bearer, and in the height of glory you shall not be wearied; as the sword is the pride [defender] of all the Arabs, and the sword is the defender of the Arabs and the homeland. What is curious is that it has the number 4 stamped on the crossguard and the sheath which could indicate a more industrial production? The grip seems to be plated with a sort of plastic, which the author says smells like pinewood when burnt? ![]() What do you guys think. Also do you have any indication on the worth of such sabers? Thanks! |
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Hello,
Mounts are very recent, made in Syria. Those were mostly made for decoration and sometimes as state gifts. The koftgari looks new. But the blade looks genuine and old, which is a common practice to refit old blades. Have an expert test it for wootz. |
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Thank you very much!
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