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I do not know why but as I am unable to reply or quote on this older topic:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3181 I just open a new one with the old subject title ![]() the book is availabe now for free as e-book by the Croatian Museum in Zagreb in 3 languages: Croation, German and English: http://jatagani.hismus.hr/knjizstart.htm http://jatagani.hismus.hr/knjizstartg.htm http://jatagani.hismus.hr/knjizstarte.htm Enjoy Ladies & Gents ☼☼☼ |
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A free online copy is a wonderful service provided by the Museum. Thanks for the heads up gp.
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Looking through the excellent museum compilation, I noted this interesting piece. A straight yataghan said to be from a cut down saber. Here is the Museum entry:
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2 other museums and one study http://h.etf.unsa.ba/btp/content/muz..._eng/about.htm https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_Banat_Museum page 327: https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/10435 could well be the bone had been darkened...but normally indeed a bone would be white and used for the bjeloscapi / whitecolored yataghan and bichaqs although an error is human, Dora Bošković has quite some publications and books published, so I can not comment easily on this specific item... Last edited by gp; 18th August 2022 at 05:19 PM. |
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by the way, the book by Sercer, Marija. Jatagani u Povijesnom muzeju Hrvatske. Katalog muzejskih zbirki XI. Zagreb : Povijesni muzej Hrvatske, 1975.
is also partially available in German, made for an exhibition in Austria : Jatagane aus dem Historischen Museum von Kroatien in Zagreb (Agram). Sonderausstellung im Landeszeughaus 9. April - 7. Juni 1976. Graz : Landeszeughaus am Landesmuseum Joanneum, 1976 with regards to " referring to the hilt as "bone," I think they mean horn," ; many hilts of yataghans, bichaqs and kamas were made also from bone ...the poor man's version or cheap repair of the ones and compared to the ones made from walrus, ivory or horn in the Balkans. I have one yataghan which handle is not completly walrus or ivory, but had a repair from that time (19th century in which the of the handle, the "wing" wasthat badly damaged, that part got repaired / substitued locally by a piece of bone ; the epiphysis). I shall try to make some good pics to show it. Last edited by gp; 20th January 2024 at 10:43 PM. |
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Those books by dora boskovic and marija sercer are ok, but they got wrong on many yatagan producing techniques.
Best book on weapons that was used on Balkan teritory is Vajsil Čurćić Starinsko oružje u bosni i hercegovini. In that book it is covered all weapon types and are corect. Another great book on yatagans is Goran Bubanja jatagani u crnoj gori. Those two books are excelent. Museum books are full of wrong data, especialy Split museum book, they have in ther inventar two false albanian made 20 st yatagans that are falsly marked in 15 st, and they dont recognise that, so museum “experts” are 50/50 info. Pozdrav. |
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thank you for your very interesting comments and feeback; highly appreciated.
Some more literature on the topic:# 33 and # 36,37 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ure#post275457 latest book is by Kozo, topic # 75 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ozo#post270932 Last edited by gp; 21st January 2024 at 07:08 PM. |
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2 new publications I just stumbled on from Russia:
1 Cherevichnik, Denis(2014) On the issue on origin of yataghan. Черевичник Денис (2014) К вопросу о происхождении ятагана. IN: The History of Weapons 2014, pp. 219-238 В: Истории Оружия 2014, С. 219-238 Denis Cherevichnik Ottoman History, Arms and Armor Studies,Ottoman Studies, Turkish and Middle East Studies,Ottoman Military History it can be legally downloaded from the internet In this first part of the article, the author explores the origin and etymology of the term "yataghan" Scientific reviewers: V.I.Klochko - Head of the Department of Archaeology of the National University "Kyiv-Mohyla Academy", Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor. Jan Hohorovsky - Head of the Department of archaeology of the bronze age of the Institute of Archaeology at the Jagiellonian University (Poland), Dr. hub., Professor Научные рецензенты: В.И. Клочко - зав. кафедрой археологии Национального университета "Киево-Могилянская академия" , доктор исторических наук, профессор. Ян Хохоровский - зав. отделом археологии эпохи бронзы Института археологии Ягеллонского университета (Польша), доктор хаб., профессор. 2 Cherevichnik Denis (2018). Ottoman yataghan: etymology and origin of the term. In: Collection of the scientific works of the International scientific and Practical conference “The world of weapons: stories, heroes, collections”. Tula State Museum of Weapons, October 3-5, 2018. This paper is devoted to the study of the history of the Ottoman yataghan, and is a logical continuation of the author’s article "To the Question of the Origin of Yatagan. (History of Antique Arms Researches 2016, pp. 17-35.) Оттоманский ятаган: этимология и происхождение термина Ottoman History,Early modern Ottoman History, Bektashi Studies, Ottoman Janissaries Работа посвящена исследованию истории османского ятагана, и является логическим продолжением статьи автора "«К вопросу о происхождении ятагана» ("История оружия", 2014). and 2 publications , also legally t.b. downloaded 1. Adnan Muftarević : BALKANLARDA YATAĞAN YAPIMI ( partial English) 2. Quelques considerations historiques concernant un yatagan de la collection du Musée Municipal Médiaș, p. 282-287. dr. Mihai Chiriac dr. Viorel Ștefu some pics, also Yatagan Production centers in the Balkans Last edited by gp; 27th January 2024 at 04:48 PM. |
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another legal download:
Jatagan - nepoznat u heraldici, by Zoran Peran, 2022, in "Grb i zastava" |
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