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Originally Posted by ariel

And, BTW, what we traditionally call " Surmene knives" ( after the Turkish town of Surmene) were also widespread in the Georgian part of the Adjaro-Gurian area and locally known as " Baba Kamas".

Interesting here is the fact that taking into consideration:


1. the word "kama" originates from Armenia
2. looking at the geography map of the region:

- Armenia
- Georgia and hence the Adjaro-Guria part (migration of the Laz people called Mingrelian)
- Turkey and its Laz region

looking at the geopolitical changes through the centuries ( even from the Persian an Roman times) and explained in this article:
https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/13727/gg

it seems no claim to a certain territory can be made and determination of items is quite "challenging"due to the interaction during the centuries.

Are Laz Gurians or are Gurians Laz people or are there many more we can call Laz people(s)...?

Last but not least Surmene knives come now..or at least the last century....from the Trabzon region...and....according to these maps....that is or was part of Lazistan;
so no surprise about the "Grussian " / Georgian connection