Bag Lady Kampilan

Sajen · 18th April 2020, 11:29 PM

Wow, what a stunning kampy!

Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary?

Regards,
Detlef

Rick · 19th April 2020, 03:25 AM

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

drac2k · 19th April 2020, 04:23 AM

Very Cool Sword; could it be an heirloom piece where each successive owner would embellish it with something meaningful to themselves.

Spunjer · 19th April 2020, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

BOOM! by God, you got it, Rick. thank you!

Rick · 19th April 2020, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

BOOM! by God, you got it, Rick. thank you!

They are all symbols of power IMO.

I wonder if the ship with The British flag might not be an East India Co. coin. I'll bet one anchor button is British navy and the other with a crown and cannons could possibly be British Artillery?
I wonder if this sword has been in Malaya in the past.

It's a very special sword Ron; I think it's pretty old, and maybe someone tried to strip the finish from the hilt to enhance the value a bit?

CharlesS · 19th April 2020, 12:16 PM

AWESOME sword Ron! Somebody really liked their "ju-ju" and apparently wanted to make sure all their bases were covered!!!

David · 19th April 2020, 04:19 PM

Never had a drive to collect kamplian, but i might make an exception with this sword.

Spunjer · 19th April 2020, 08:28 PM

ok, form everyone's help and guidance, this is what i've gathered so far:

large coin and inscribed with INDO-CHINE FRANCAISE 1897: Colonial French bronze coin worth 1 centime (1896-1939) (Ian)

Spanish coin from the period of Ferdinand VII (reigned 1808-1833). The inscription reads: Ferd.VII D.G.Hisp. Et ind.R. It could be an Octavo (18 mm diameter) or Quarto(22 mm diameter). Both were made from copper (Ian)

coin to the left is intriguing and I'm working on it. The one to the left of it is also interesting. There is no clear inscription, but the crowned royal shield with two lions rampant in the upper right and lower left quadrant first appeared on the coins of Carlos III (reigned 1759-1788). This one could be an 18th C. coin (Ian)

that's a few knocked off. the dates are concentrated around the end of 19th century. again, American coin is missing, so i think it's safe to say this was a pre 1898 kampy

British Royal Fusiliers badge (Rick). did a little research on this, and this was around the turn of the century

anchor button. British (Rick), or Royal Dutch

Coin with british ship and flag turned out to be 1/2 Penny from Canadian Provinces which was minted from 1790 to 1871

Infantry button, 1875-1931 (www.agmohio.com)

Artillery button Spain, date unknown

Chinese coin during the Reign of Xien Feng Emperor 1850 to 1861

David · 24th July 2024, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

That is exactly what it is. Unfortunately these medallions looked very much the same from the late 19th century up through WWII so it is a bit difficult to date.

Tim Simmons · 25th July 2024, 06:36 AM

The British coin is a (ships colonies and commerce coin 1/2 penny) Canada.

https://coinsite.com/ships-colonies-...mmerce-tokens/

Spunjer · 19th April 2020, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Wow, what a stunning kampy!

Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary?

Regards,
Detlef

hello Detlef,
i don't think it is. i believe it's just a plain medallion

thank you, btw!

Sajen · 25th July 2024, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

hello Detlef,
i don't think it is. i believe it's just a plain medallion

thank you, btw!

I wouldn't be too sure about this, look for example two similar ones taken from the net.

Regards,
Detlef

Montino Bourbon · 26th July 2024, 02:20 AM

There’s also a coin from Vittorio Emanuele II. Victor Emmanuel II was King of Sardinia from 23 March 1849 until 17 March 1861, when he assumed the title of King of Italy and became the first king of an independent, united Italy since the 6th century, a title he held until his death in 1878

Pertinax · 26th July 2024, 09:03 AM

Perhaps this kampilan was used in religious ceremonies and belonged to a local priest. Similar items are found among shamans of the peoples of Siberia.

How do you like this version?

Regards, Yuri

David R · 2nd August 2024, 11:25 PM

Well whatever the history behind it, what a find! Love it, just as I like all these vernacular packrat decorated pieces.

19th April 2020, 03:25 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device. Attached Images

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	The British coin is a (ships colonies and commerce coin 1/2 penny) Canada. https://coinsite.com/ships-colonies-...mmerce-tokens/ Last edited by Tim Simmons; 25th July 2024 at 06:48 AM.

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18th April 2020, 11:29 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,269	Wow, what a stunning kampy! Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary? Regards, Detlef

19th April 2020, 04:23 AM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Very Cool Sword; could it be an heirloom piece where each successive owner would embellish it with something meaningful to themselves.

19th April 2020, 12:16 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	AWESOME sword Ron! Somebody really liked their "ju-ju" and apparently wanted to make sure all their bases were covered!!!

19th April 2020, 04:19 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,228	Never had a drive to collect kamplian, but i might make an exception with this sword.

19th April 2020, 08:28 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ok, form everyone's help and guidance, this is what i've gathered so far: large coin and inscribed with INDO-CHINE FRANCAISE 1897: Colonial French bronze coin worth 1 centime (1896-1939) (Ian) Spanish coin from the period of Ferdinand VII (reigned 1808-1833). The inscription reads: Ferd.VII D.G.Hisp. Et ind.R. It could be an Octavo (18 mm diameter) or Quarto(22 mm diameter). Both were made from copper (Ian) coin to the left is intriguing and I'm working on it. The one to the left of it is also interesting. There is no clear inscription, but the crowned royal shield with two lions rampant in the upper right and lower left quadrant first appeared on the coins of Carlos III (reigned 1759-1788). This one could be an 18th C. coin (Ian) that's a few knocked off. the dates are concentrated around the end of 19th century. again, American coin is missing, so i think it's safe to say this was a pre 1898 kampy British Royal Fusiliers badge (Rick). did a little research on this, and this was around the turn of the century anchor button. British (Rick), or Royal Dutch Coin with british ship and flag turned out to be 1/2 Penny from Canadian Provinces which was minted from 1790 to 1871 Infantry button, 1875-1931 (www.agmohio.com) Artillery button Spain, date unknown Chinese coin during the Reign of Xien Feng Emperor 1850 to 1861

26th July 2024, 02:20 AM	#13
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	There’s also a coin from Vittorio Emanuele II. Victor Emmanuel II was King of Sardinia from 23 March 1849 until 17 March 1861, when he assumed the title of King of Italy and became the first king of an independent, united Italy since the 6th century, a title he held until his death in 1878

26th July 2024, 09:03 AM	#14
Pertinax Member Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: City by the Black Sea Posts: 263	Perhaps this kampilan was used in religious ceremonies and belonged to a local priest. Similar items are found among shamans of the peoples of Siberia. How do you like this version? Regards, Yuri

2nd August 2024, 11:25 PM	#15
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,123	Well whatever the history behind it, what a find! Love it, just as I like all these vernacular packrat decorated pieces.