kindjal-like persian-syrian 20th dagger ?

francantolin · 28th November 2019, 09:10 PM

Hello,

I wanted to show you this dagger with silver inlay,
the shape looks like a kindjal or a qama.
the end of the hilt is interesting, an ottoman-crescent shape ?

Is it all recent for you ?

I find few and differents informations on internet with such daggers ( but didn't find the same...) :

oscillating between 19th century persian steel and silver inlay ceremonial daggers and 21th century indian souvenir daggers...

any comments ?

Thank you !!

mahratt · 28th November 2019, 10:12 PM

I think this is Syria. Very late 19th - early 20th century

Kubur · 29th November 2019, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mahratt

I think this is Syria. Very late 19th - early 20th century

200% right

If you wish you can say late Ottoman, it's more chic...

francantolin · 29th November 2019, 07:12 PM

Hello and Thank you both !!

Have you other examples of this kind of ''crescent-shaped '' hilt end ??

Kind regards !!!

motan · 1st December 2019, 02:32 PM

Hi,
I have not much to add, but I confirm what is already said by Kubur and Mahratt. I have always asked myself whether these Kindjals and many other daggers from Damascus with the same construction and decoration were genuine daggers made for locals, or "bazaar" pieces. I say this because some of the types have strange features, for example, Jambiyas with Kindjal hilts etc', and because 90% have very thin, poor quality blade. Anyone cares to comment??
This one is relatively early, I think, because of the specific type of (Ottoman) scabbard. Early 20th c./late Ottoman is correct in my opinion.

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francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	kindjal-like persian-syrian 20th dagger ? Hello, I wanted to show you this dagger with silver inlay, the shape looks like a kindjal or a qama. the end of the hilt is interesting, an ottoman-crescent shape ? Is it all recent for you ? I find few and differents informations on internet with such daggers ( but didn't find the same...) : oscillating between 19th century persian steel and silver inlay ceremonial daggers and 21th century indian souvenir daggers... any comments ? Thank you !! Attached Images

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28th November 2019, 10:12 PM	#2
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	I think this is Syria. Very late 19th - early 20th century

29th November 2019, 07:12 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello and Thank you both !! Have you other examples of this kind of ''crescent-shaped '' hilt end ?? Kind regards !!!

1st December 2019, 02:32 PM	#5
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hi, I have not much to add, but I confirm what is already said by Kubur and Mahratt. I have always asked myself whether these Kindjals and many other daggers from Damascus with the same construction and decoration were genuine daggers made for locals, or "bazaar" pieces. I say this because some of the types have strange features, for example, Jambiyas with Kindjal hilts etc', and because 90% have very thin, poor quality blade. Anyone cares to comment?? This one is relatively early, I think, because of the specific type of (Ottoman) scabbard. Early 20th c./late Ottoman is correct in my opinion.