The Beginning:- A Question

[A. G. Maisey]

Thanks Yohan, so you're a Big End man

and Jean, you have no opinion?

OK, no opinion.

As to why I asked the question, it was because I wished to try to establish a consensus of opinion in respect of the beginning of a physical keris blade.

Does it start at the very tip, the ujung, the front and move back towards the hilt, or does it start at the base of the blade and move forward towards the point? Where does this long thin piece of metal begin? Everything begins somewhere. Does a building begin at its foundations and go up, or with its roof and go down?

When we look at a keris, how do we hold it? How do we examine it ? Do we point it towards the ground, or towards the sky, or towards the horizon, or towards somewhere else?

Why do I want to establish a consensus of opinion?

Because I want to prepare a foundation for further understanding. Its that simple.

All I'm asking for is an opinion, not a theory that needs to be defended.

[Jean]

Well for a change I would say that the beginning of the blade is the tip of the pesi (the bottom end of a blade). The pesi is part of the blade since it "penetrates" it from the base.
Regards

[Paul de Souza]

I think the keris begins at the ganja...the point we focus on when we first take it out from the sarong.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Paul de Souza

I think the keris begins at the ganja...the point we focus on when we first take it out from the sarong.

I considered this option too but the ganja is separate from the blade unless it is iras

[A. G. Maisey]

Thank you Jean, and thank you Paul.

[Anthony G.]

Pardon me for my little knowledge. I would said it is at the TOP. Why?

The keris tip is 'our head'. We must always submit and respect the Creator and it's creation.

The bilah and pesi symbolize the form lingga while the ganja symbolizes the yoni form.

[A. G. Maisey]

Thank you Anthony.