Keris Solo for comment

[A. G. Maisey]

Thank you David.

[David Gallas]

You're welcome Alan.

[jagabuwana]

Alan - what about this gonjo makes it unacceptable to be classified as Tuban?

From having seen the photo and before having read further, Tuban was my guess. My reasoning was the rounded sirah cicak and the buntut urang tapering to a point.

[A. G. Maisey]

If this gonjo had what we call nguceng mati form, with the tail coming back to a distinct point, I would be prepared to accept the slightly pointed sirah cecak as Tuban, its not really rounded enough for Tuban, but it would pass with a push. However, that gonjo tail has a slight curve and the end is more or less squared off. This is not acceptable for Tuban.

There's another thing too, I cannot really see the blade cross section, I'm not sure if it is ovoid enough for Tuban, in a couple of pics it looks like it could be slightly raised down the mid-line of the wilah, not really an ada-ada, but not rounded either.

[Jean]

I wonder whether this gonjo wulung is original, look at the mating with the blade and the neat & oversized hole around the pesi with a rustic wedge?
Regards

[A. G. Maisey]

The gonjo might not be original, but this is an old blade, and gonjos on old blades are often not original, the gonjo itself is old, the erosion seems to be more or less similar to the wilah erosion, the wedge is quite OK, the hole in the pesi could be a whisker smaller, but if the gonjo was removed during maintenance, something that is not at all unusual with older blades, natural erosion would account for the larger than necessary hole.

I can see nothing in this keris to cause me to question it, I'd accept as is, even if the gonjo was not the gonjo put onto it on day one --- and there is no way of knowing that with any certainty in the case of this keris.

[Jean]

Just for reference and comparison, I attach the pics of the sorsoran of 3 old & big blades similar to David's blade (dapur Tilam Upih) with original gonjos I think.
Regards