Unusual nimcha blade: need help

fernando · 18th April 2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

Here is one of my Indian swords with a similar multi fullered straight blade .

They looks like being made with a different technique (tool). While yours are the smooth type the ones in Ariel's sword are sharper ... right ?

thinreadline · 19th April 2018, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando

They looks like being made with a different technique (tool). While yours are the smooth type the ones in Ariel's sword are sharper ... right ?

I couldnt really say ...

ausjulius · 22nd April 2018, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando

They looks like being made with a different technique (tool). While yours are the smooth type the ones in Ariel's sword are sharper ... right ?

they are all made by the same tool a fullering plane.
just on the indian one looks like its be polished to a more rounded surface once fullered.

fernando · 22nd April 2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ausjulius

they are all made by the same tool a fullering plane.
just on the indian one looks like its be polished to a more rounded surface once fullered.

Oh i see; thank you for that

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ariel · 22nd April 2018, 03:09 PM

Indian and especially Arabian are of a uniform width. Mine are more complex: wide-narrow etc. That , together with a well formed false edge, was the feature to tilt me toward a European source. Ricasso is a well-known feature of Indian blades, but I can’t recall it on locally made N. African ones.

As I suspected, a little but perplexing mystery:-)

Jens Nordlunde · 22nd April 2018, 04:05 PM

Ariel,
I think I see 5 fullers on one side of your sword and 7 on
the other side, is that correct?
Are the fullers on your sword as even as the ones shown on thinredlines sword? It looks as if the fullers are not as straight.
Could the blade have been made of Indian ingots?
Indian ingots were sold to Arabia where blades were made, and exported to India.
Could the blade have been made somewhere in Arabia, 'copying' an European blade, ment for the Indian market - but sold to Morocco?

ariel · 22nd April 2018, 05:35 PM

No, 7 on each side. All very straight and in the same order.
As to the "travel" from an ingot to the final place of sale, - anything is possible.

Just all my Indian and especially Arabian blades have fullers that are not as straight and even as this one.

I told you, guys, it is confusing.....

Jens Nordlunde · 24th April 2018, 01:08 PM

In Robert Elgood's Jodhpur booke, vol. I, pp. 218-219, he shows an almost straight Indian blade (kirich/kirach) with four fullers.
Maybe your blade is Indian.

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22nd April 2018, 03:09 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Indian and especially Arabian are of a uniform width. Mine are more complex: wide-narrow etc. That , together with a well formed false edge, was the feature to tilt me toward a European source. Ricasso is a well-known feature of Indian blades, but I can’t recall it on locally made N. African ones. As I suspected, a little but perplexing mystery:-)

22nd April 2018, 04:05 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Ariel, I think I see 5 fullers on one side of your sword and 7 on the other side, is that correct? Are the fullers on your sword as even as the ones shown on thinredlines sword? It looks as if the fullers are not as straight. Could the blade have been made of Indian ingots? Indian ingots were sold to Arabia where blades were made, and exported to India. Could the blade have been made somewhere in Arabia, 'copying' an European blade, ment for the Indian market - but sold to Morocco?

22nd April 2018, 05:35 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	No, 7 on each side. All very straight and in the same order. As to the "travel" from an ingot to the final place of sale, - anything is possible. Just all my Indian and especially Arabian blades have fullers that are not as straight and even as this one. I told you, guys, it is confusing.....

24th April 2018, 01:08 PM	#8
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	In Robert Elgood's Jodhpur booke, vol. I, pp. 218-219, he shows an almost straight Indian blade (kirich/kirach) with four fullers. Maybe your blade is Indian.