Burmese (Tourist) Sword

dhouseman · 23rd February 2006, 12:59 PM

Hello,
I am new here. I am from Germany and I hit this forum on my search for information about an piece, which I buyed myself 10 years ago near the thai/burmese border.
I take it because it seems to be different to the others which i saw on the markets in Bankok. I cant decide if it is a work for tourists or maybe a marriage of some old parts. I cant read the inscription as well.
The handle is 3 part, brass an wood (not a hardwood), the middle part is thicker than the rest. The blade is not sharp but maybe handforged.
Can anybody help me with this part and the translation ?

Mark · 23rd February 2006, 03:54 PM

I unfortunately cannot read the inscription, but it is definately in Burmese.

I have never seen this precise form before, but it is quite similar to other Burmese dha. I would say that it is more-or-less contemporary and made for the practice of martial arts. Andrew has studied this more closely than I, and so may have more comments on that.

Andrew · 26th February 2006, 07:40 PM

I've really nothing to add to what Mark has said. Hard to opine definitively from the photos, but it looks better made than the typical tourist dha.

dhouseman · 27th February 2006, 09:20 AM

Thank you so far.
Does anybody can translate burmese, or have anyone an idea?
Maybe the embassy?
regards from Germany
Dirk

Mark · 27th February 2006, 05:26 PM

Burmese is one language in which we are sorely lacking in expertise here, unfortunately. I have had very poor luck finding reliable translations. The embassy might be a good place to start, though.

PUFF · 1st March 2006, 06:33 AM

Herer is another similar tourist burma blade.

(go to the bottom of this page)
http://thaiblades.com/forums/showthr...t=1854&page=28

On the first side, the engraving is smith 's name. In my case is "Cho". And it is ""PAN" in your case.

I don't have any idea for the engraving on the other side. But it is "Good steel guarantee"

The engraving is quite poor though

I may ask my Burmese friend later.

dhouseman · 3rd March 2006, 10:53 AM

Thank you, but I cant view the pictures because I am not registerd at Thai Blades. Now I could be sure it is not an old one , but I ve got a nice souvenir from my wedding journey.

Andrew · 4th March 2006, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUFF

Herer is another similar tourist burma blade.

(go to the bottom of this page)
http://thaiblades.com/forums/showthr...t=1854&page=28

On the first side, the engraving is smith 's name. In my case is "Cho". And it is ""PAN" in your case.

I don't have any idea for the engraving on the other side. But it is "Good steel guarantee"

The engraving is quite poor though

I may ask my Burmese friend later.

Puff,

I am really very excited to have you (and Titus

) on the forum. A few of us here are collectors of continental SEA weapons, and your presence will, no doubt, be a great asset!

Is there any chance I could send you photos of some Burmese inscriptions to see if your friend could translate them?

Best regards,
Andrew

PUFF · 6th March 2006, 05:15 AM

Just for your information, SibSongPannNa (TaiYai), Lanna, Burmese letters looks very similar.

You can send me some pictures. Just mail to s_issara at yahoo dot com (sorry to write this way, I just don't like those webbot

)

I can ask people in Thaiblades (some people can read Lanna) and also my Burmese teacher (I just start studying Burmese

)

23rd February 2006, 12:59 PM	#1
dhouseman Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Burmese (Tourist) Sword Hello, I am new here. I am from Germany and I hit this forum on my search for information about an piece, which I buyed myself 10 years ago near the thai/burmese border. I take it because it seems to be different to the others which i saw on the markets in Bankok. I cant decide if it is a work for tourists or maybe a marriage of some old parts. I cant read the inscription as well. The handle is 3 part, brass an wood (not a hardwood), the middle part is thicker than the rest. The blade is not sharp but maybe handforged. Can anybody help me with this part and the translation ? Attached Images

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23rd February 2006, 03:54 PM	#2
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I unfortunately cannot read the inscription, but it is definately in Burmese. I have never seen this precise form before, but it is quite similar to other Burmese dha. I would say that it is more-or-less contemporary and made for the practice of martial arts. Andrew has studied this more closely than I, and so may have more comments on that.

26th February 2006, 07:40 PM	#3
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I've really nothing to add to what Mark has said. Hard to opine definitively from the photos, but it looks better made than the typical tourist dha.

27th February 2006, 09:20 AM	#4
dhouseman Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Thank you so far. Does anybody can translate burmese, or have anyone an idea? Maybe the embassy? regards from Germany Dirk

27th February 2006, 05:26 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Burmese is one language in which we are sorely lacking in expertise here, unfortunately. I have had very poor luck finding reliable translations. The embassy might be a good place to start, though.

1st March 2006, 06:33 AM	#6
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Herer is another similar tourist burma blade. (go to the bottom of this page) http://thaiblades.com/forums/showthr...t=1854&page=28 On the first side, the engraving is smith 's name. In my case is "Cho". And it is ""PAN" in your case. I don't have any idea for the engraving on the other side. But it is "Good steel guarantee" The engraving is quite poor though I may ask my Burmese friend later.

3rd March 2006, 10:53 AM	#7
dhouseman Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Thank you, but I cant view the pictures because I am not registerd at Thai Blades. Now I could be sure it is not an old one , but I ve got a nice souvenir from my wedding journey.

6th March 2006, 05:15 AM	#9
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Just for your information, SibSongPannNa (TaiYai), Lanna, Burmese letters looks very similar. You can send me some pictures. Just mail to s_issara at yahoo dot com (sorry to write this way, I just don't like those webbot ) I can ask people in Thaiblades (some people can read Lanna) and also my Burmese teacher (I just start studying Burmese )