Mini Yatagan information, anybody seen one before?

digenis · 28th February 2017, 05:31 PM

When I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia I hung out in the old bazaar area of town (looking for old weapons...). During this time I befriended many of the local antique dealers. They showed me numerous antique miniature items that would have been common items during in Ottoman times (plates, jugs, trays, vases, etc.) They claimed that these items were created as part of the "exam" the local metalworkers guild required to advance from apprentice to journeyman metalworker.

If this is true (it is the Balkans after all...) maybe the miniature yataghan shares a similar back story.

kronckew · 28th February 2017, 06:45 PM

kubar, the turks had a large corps of vicious asian guineapig infantry, so feared by the europeans that they feared to even mention them for fear that just saying their names would draw them nigh.

mustafa pasha, on his invasion of europe in 1683, was forced by circumstance to leave this corps in instanbul. this left his flank in vienna open to attack thru the forest he thought screened it. after he was defeated by the winged polish hussars who would have been easy prey for the guinea pigs in the confines of the forest. mustafa was executed a short time after his defeat for his failure.

the turks subsequently disbanded the corps, as their expansion had been thwarted. the once feared piggies faded from history, leaving a few artefacts such as above.

there are a few colonies in the remote mountainous regions of mainland turkey that remember their former glory tho. i suspect the newish yat came from there. most travellers to the region do not, however return.

it is told, however, that the pigs, remembering mustafa, flee in fear to their burrows at the first sign of wings.

Miguel · 28th February 2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

kubar, the turks had a large corps of vicious asian guineapig infantry, so feared by the europeans that they feared to even mention them for fear that just saying their names would draw them nigh.

mustafa pasha, on his invasion of europe in 1683, was forced by circumstance to leave this corps in instanbul. this left his flank in vienna open to attack thru the forest he thought screened it. after he was defeated by the winged polish hussars who would have been easy prey for the guinea pigs in the confines of the forest. mustafa was executed a short time after his defeat for his failure.

the turks subsequently disbanded the corps, as their expansion had been thwarted. the once feared piggies faded from history, leaving a few artefacts such as above.

there are a few colonies in the remote mountainous regions of mainland turkey that remember their former glory tho. i suspect the newish yat came from there. most travellers to the region do not, however return.

it is told, however, that the pigs, remembering mustafa, flee in fear to their burrows at the first sign of wings.

I love it lol, can't wait for the next episode.

Miguel

kronckew · 28th February 2017, 10:59 PM

in response to the turkish guinea pig corps, the west came up with the knights of the squirrel order. mounted on their trusty armoured cats, they decimated the guineapigs in their one recorded encounter. a complete infantry division of piggy (no relation to swine by the way, they after all are islamic) heavy armoured infantry was wiped out to a pig by the austro-hungarian knights squirrel and to the horror of the turks, their mounts ate the piggies. this is the main reason the trurks disbanded their units. not only do we have an ancient photo of a squirrel knight, sir acorn, but his trusty mount draco. you can see the bones of the devoured turkish infantry pig scattered about him. please do not allow children under the age of 15 to view the horror.

kronckew · 28th February 2017, 11:14 PM

one of these days, i will tell the tale of the imperial roman 34th legion, 'gallia arborranae' that frogspear-headed the roman invasion of dacia. this previously undocumented legion participated in many imperial battles. records have recntly been unearthed in romania.

sfenoid13 · 1st March 2017, 05:26 AM

I think we have seen enough of the the critters. Any other miniature blades anyone?

eftihis · 1st March 2017, 05:13 PM

Here it is in comparison. I have the feeling that it is Bosnian. No i dont have others and i never seen one like that.

28th February 2017, 10:59 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	in response to the turkish guinea pig corps, the west came up with the knights of the squirrel order. mounted on their trusty armoured cats, they decimated the guineapigs in their one recorded encounter. a complete infantry division of piggy (no relation to swine by the way, they after all are islamic) heavy armoured infantry was wiped out to a pig by the austro-hungarian knights squirrel and to the horror of the turks, their mounts ate the piggies. this is the main reason the trurks disbanded their units. not only do we have an ancient photo of a squirrel knight, sir acorn, but his trusty mount draco. you can see the bones of the devoured turkish infantry pig scattered about him. please do not allow children under the age of 15 to view the horror. Attached Images

28th February 2017, 11:14 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	one of these days, i will tell the tale of the imperial roman 34th legion, 'gallia arborranae' that frogspear-headed the roman invasion of dacia. this previously undocumented legion participated in many imperial battles. records have recntly been unearthed in romania. Attached Images

1st March 2017, 05:26 AM	#6
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	I think we have seen enough of the the critters. Any other miniature blades anyone? Last edited by sfenoid13; 1st March 2017 at 06:02 AM.

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eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Here it is in comparison. I have the feeling that it is Bosnian. No i dont have others and i never seen one like that. Attached Images

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28th February 2017, 05:31 PM	#1
digenis Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	When I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia I hung out in the old bazaar area of town (looking for old weapons...). During this time I befriended many of the local antique dealers. They showed me numerous antique miniature items that would have been common items during in Ottoman times (plates, jugs, trays, vases, etc.) They claimed that these items were created as part of the "exam" the local metalworkers guild required to advance from apprentice to journeyman metalworker. If this is true (it is the Balkans after all...) maybe the miniature yataghan shares a similar back story.

28th February 2017, 06:45 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	kubar, the turks had a large corps of vicious asian guineapig infantry, so feared by the europeans that they feared to even mention them for fear that just saying their names would draw them nigh. mustafa pasha, on his invasion of europe in 1683, was forced by circumstance to leave this corps in instanbul. this left his flank in vienna open to attack thru the forest he thought screened it. after he was defeated by the winged polish hussars who would have been easy prey for the guinea pigs in the confines of the forest. mustafa was executed a short time after his defeat for his failure. the turks subsequently disbanded the corps, as their expansion had been thwarted. the once feared piggies faded from history, leaving a few artefacts such as above. there are a few colonies in the remote mountainous regions of mainland turkey that remember their former glory tho. i suspect the newish yat came from there. most travellers to the region do not, however return. it is told, however, that the pigs, remembering mustafa, flee in fear to their burrows at the first sign of wings.