"Armour Piercing Keris" ???

A. G. Maisey · 18th December 2016, 07:28 PM

You make a good argument Timo, but the problem is that Brojoguno keris were witnessed and recorded as having pierced Dutch breast plates.

What sort of Dutch breast plates?

I don't know.

How it was done?

I don't know.

Was the author of the babad (court history) lying?

I don't know.

Was it a political ploy to raise Javanese spirit?

I don't know

Perhaps your modern understanding of the mechanical qualities of material do undermine this piece of recorded history. But again, we have a problem, and that problem is Jawa itself.

If something is believed to have happened, it did happen, and all the logic, reason and modern scientific understanding in the world will not alter that.

Modern logical thought has no place at all in Javanese keris belief systems.

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18th December 2016, 07:28 PM	#13
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	You make a good argument Timo, but the problem is that Brojoguno keris were witnessed and recorded as having pierced Dutch breast plates. What sort of Dutch breast plates? I don't know. How it was done? I don't know. Was the author of the babad (court history) lying? I don't know. Was it a political ploy to raise Javanese spirit? I don't know Perhaps your modern understanding of the mechanical qualities of material do undermine this piece of recorded history. But again, we have a problem, and that problem is Jawa itself. If something is believed to have happened, it did happen, and all the logic, reason and modern scientific understanding in the world will not alter that. Modern logical thought has no place at all in Javanese keris belief systems.