A Bingangon from Pinay

Rafngard · 29th November 2016, 02:31 AM

Hello All,

Just snapped a few quick photos of a new toy. I think this is binangon from Pinay. The hilt is carabao horn, with a iron ferrule. The scabbard is wood with a (goat skin?) leather throat, brass fittings, and I think panels on the bottom are shaved carabao horn, which according to the below posts is now a lost art. One has been damaged. I think this might be early 1900s, but this is just a guess. I've done only a light cleaning so far.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15494
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11550

As always, any thoughts, comment, and/or corrections are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Leif

Ferguson · 29th November 2016, 02:35 PM

Nice one. As you say, from Panay in the Visayas. A similar one was my first piece from the Philippines, and started my addiction.

It looks to be in fine condition!
Steve

Sajen · 29th November 2016, 03:37 PM

Hi Leif,

very nice binangon in very good condition, congrats!

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 29th November 2016, 05:46 PM

Nice pick up Lief.

We have gone round a few times with what to call these swords. It seems that most people have settled on binangon, although some of the former Visayan members of this Forum would also call it a sundang (an even more generic term than binangon as far as I recall).

Early 20th C seems right for this one.

Ian.

Rafngard · 30th November 2016, 02:32 AM

Hello all,

First of all thank you all for your kind words.
I'm very happy to have found it. I would have been happier if it was diety hilted, but meh. Gift horse, mouth, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

We have gone round a few times with what to call these swords. It seems that most people have settled on binangon, although some of the former Visayan members of this Forum would also call it a sundang (an even more generic term than binangon as far as I recall).

Early 20th C seems right for this one.
Ian.

Correct my if I'm wrong, but sundang, in a Visayan context comes down to meaning something like "sword," yes?

I'm glad my instinct was about right on the date for this.

Thanks,
Leif

Ian · 30th November 2016, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafngard

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Correct my if I'm wrong, but sundang, in a Visayan context comes down to meaning something like "sword," yes?

I'm glad my instinct was about right on the date for this.

Thanks,
Leif

Yes, Lief. Sundang is a general word for sword in some Visayan dialects.

Ian

Spunjer · 30th November 2016, 11:52 PM

Ian and Rafngard,

both term are correct although if you ask an ilonggo (Panay native), he or she would be more apt to call it binangon.

yes, early 20th c. as Ian has noted. good catch!

Sajen · 1st December 2016, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

yes, early 20th c. as Ian has noted.

I wouldn't rule out late 19th century.

29th November 2016, 02:31 AM	#1
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 348	A Bingangon from Pinay Hello All, Just snapped a few quick photos of a new toy. I think this is binangon from Pinay. The hilt is carabao horn, with a iron ferrule. The scabbard is wood with a (goat skin?) leather throat, brass fittings, and I think panels on the bottom are shaved carabao horn, which according to the below posts is now a lost art. One has been damaged. I think this might be early 1900s, but this is just a guess. I've done only a light cleaning so far. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15494 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11550 As always, any thoughts, comment, and/or corrections are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Leif Attached Images

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29th November 2016, 02:35 PM	#2
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Nice one. As you say, from Panay in the Visayas. A similar one was my first piece from the Philippines, and started my addiction. It looks to be in fine condition! Steve

29th November 2016, 03:37 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Hi Leif, very nice binangon in very good condition, congrats! Regards, Detlef

29th November 2016, 05:46 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Nice pick up Lief. We have gone round a few times with what to call these swords. It seems that most people have settled on binangon, although some of the former Visayan members of this Forum would also call it a sundang (an even more generic term than binangon as far as I recall). Early 20th C seems right for this one. Ian.

30th November 2016, 11:52 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Ian and Rafngard, both term are correct although if you ask an ilonggo (Panay native), he or she would be more apt to call it binangon. yes, early 20th c. as Ian has noted. good catch!