keris java

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2015, 10:10 PM

Jean, the vast bulk of all keris made since, say, the 1600's, are very ordinary keris.

Why?

Because ordinary people cannot afford to pay for the services of competent artists.

Most keris in existence do not come within a bull's roar of observing the parameters that make even a halfway decent keris.

Semar's keris is original and worn. Look at the kruwingan.

What would this keris have had to look like before sogokan were cut to have kruwingan like this?

Further, why would anybody want to cut sogokan into an old, very ordinary blade?

Semar, it might be possible to match this blade to something listed in a pakem, but it is far more likely that it does not follow any set down dhapur, the reasons being the same that I have mentioned above.

In respect of tangguh, many half-educated people would give this blade as either Pengging or Pajang, it is neither.

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10th July 2015, 10:10 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Jean, the vast bulk of all keris made since, say, the 1600's, are very ordinary keris. Why? Because ordinary people cannot afford to pay for the services of competent artists. Most keris in existence do not come within a bull's roar of observing the parameters that make even a halfway decent keris. Semar's keris is original and worn. Look at the kruwingan. What would this keris have had to look like before sogokan were cut to have kruwingan like this? Further, why would anybody want to cut sogokan into an old, very ordinary blade? Semar, it might be possible to match this blade to something listed in a pakem, but it is far more likely that it does not follow any set down dhapur, the reasons being the same that I have mentioned above. In respect of tangguh, many half-educated people would give this blade as either Pengging or Pajang, it is neither.