Nice Spanish Colonial Sword

Robert · 21st December 2005, 07:04 AM

Battara,
I agree that the first one with the carved hilt does look quite a bit better than the second but the second one to me seems like a more practical weapon to carry into battle.

The blades on both swords are almost identical. The main difference is the bevel on the top edge of the first sword. One other thing I might mention is that in the pictures of the first sword it looks like it has a fuller, but that is just an optical illusion caused by the camera and lighting. As soon as my daughter brings my camera back "again" I will take pictures of them both side by side. Hopefully I will be able to take better pictures of the hilt because like I said earlier these pictures don't do the carving justice. I thank you very much for your opinion on these.

Robert

Battara · 21st December 2005, 08:20 AM

So this is a lighting effect? W W! Ok, well, that changes some things aboiut the blade then.

Regarding Luzon blades, especially Tagalog and Ilocano, they will not be a beefy as Moro. The fighting styles were different. In the north, Luzon, they were more influenced by Spanish espada y daga and in this one uses a long sword and a dagger. The bolos were more used like this than for chopping like the Moro barung or kampilan, or even the talibon. They were effective, but in different ways.

Robert · 21st December 2005, 03:28 PM

Battara,
Maybe you will answer a question for me that I have ask before on the forum but never received an answer for. On Brass fittings like the first sword has, is it better to clean and polish them or is it better to just clean them and leave them alone?

Robert

Battara · 22nd December 2005, 06:57 PM

I think the reason you have not gotten an answer is that there are differing opinions among the experts. I have even seen 2 opposite opinions coming from Sothebys!

For now, clean it but don't polish it yet. Bronze don't polish for any reason, but brass some say yes it was meant to be polished, some say no. Silver it raises the value to polish. Brass - jury still out.

Maybe more than you originally wanted, but hope this helps somewhat.

Robert · 22nd December 2005, 08:55 PM

Battara
No, not more than I ask for.

I do how ever know to NEVER polish bronze. I was hoping that brass would be in the same class as silver and is OK to polish. One thing about brass is if you don't wax it after cleaning, it will tarnish back pretty fast. Thank you for your reply.

Robert

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21st December 2005, 07:04 AM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Battara, I agree that the first one with the carved hilt does look quite a bit better than the second but the second one to me seems like a more practical weapon to carry into battle. The blades on both swords are almost identical. The main difference is the bevel on the top edge of the first sword. One other thing I might mention is that in the pictures of the first sword it looks like it has a fuller, but that is just an optical illusion caused by the camera and lighting. As soon as my daughter brings my camera back "again" I will take pictures of them both side by side. Hopefully I will be able to take better pictures of the hilt because like I said earlier these pictures don't do the carving justice. I thank you very much for your opinion on these. Robert

21st December 2005, 08:20 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	So this is a lighting effect? W W! Ok, well, that changes some things aboiut the blade then. Regarding Luzon blades, especially Tagalog and Ilocano, they will not be a beefy as Moro. The fighting styles were different. In the north, Luzon, they were more influenced by Spanish espada y daga and in this one uses a long sword and a dagger. The bolos were more used like this than for chopping like the Moro barung or kampilan, or even the talibon. They were effective, but in different ways.

21st December 2005, 03:28 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Battara, Maybe you will answer a question for me that I have ask before on the forum but never received an answer for. On Brass fittings like the first sword has, is it better to clean and polish them or is it better to just clean them and leave them alone? Robert

22nd December 2005, 06:57 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I think the reason you have not gotten an answer is that there are differing opinions among the experts. I have even seen 2 opposite opinions coming from Sothebys! For now, clean it but don't polish it yet. Bronze don't polish for any reason, but brass some say yes it was meant to be polished, some say no. Silver it raises the value to polish. Brass - jury still out. Maybe more than you originally wanted, but hope this helps somewhat.

22nd December 2005, 08:55 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Battara No, not more than I ask for. I do how ever know to NEVER polish bronze. I was hoping that brass would be in the same class as silver and is OK to polish. One thing about brass is if you don't wax it after cleaning, it will tarnish back pretty fast. Thank you for your reply. Robert