Kris #1

punal · 15th December 2005, 03:04 AM

Provenance and age on this Kris please.

Swords Dimensions:
OAL: 23"
Blade: 19"
Width: 1 1/2"
Thickness: 1/4"

punal · 15th December 2005, 03:14 AM

Provenance and age on this Kris please?

Sword's Dimensions:
OAL: 27"
Blade: 22 1/2"
Blade width: 1 1/2
Thickness: 1/4 "

Battara · 15th December 2005, 05:41 AM

Punal, kris #1 I would say is Tausug and possibly around the early 1800s

Kris #2 I would guess as Maguinanao, but possibly the hilt may be post 1900.

nechesh · 15th December 2005, 06:03 AM

I tend to agree with you Jose on the hilt on #2. It looks like a really nice 20th century hilt. I wouldn't be surprised if it is fairly recent. I have seen quite a few nicely made new hilts on some old kris of late. Many of them have ivory kakatus that have been dyed for an aging effect. I think a lot of these old blades get rehilted specifically to increase their resale with new hilts that are made to look older.

Bill · 15th December 2005, 07:02 AM

I'd guess Tausug on the first one, the blade maybe 18C, maybe earlier. The second one looks like what Cato describes as "cross-over", so I would again just say Mindanao. The blade looks old, 1800? At least some of the work on the hilt looks to be recient, at least after 1960.

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15th December 2005, 03:04 AM	#1
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	Kris #1 Provenance and age on this Kris please. Swords Dimensions: OAL: 23" Blade: 19" Width: 1 1/2" Thickness: 1/4" Attached Images

15th December 2005, 03:14 AM	#2
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	Kris #2 Provenance and age on this Kris please? Sword's Dimensions: OAL: 27" Blade: 22 1/2" Blade width: 1 1/2 Thickness: 1/4 " Attached Images

15th December 2005, 05:41 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Punal, kris #1 I would say is Tausug and possibly around the early 1800s Kris #2 I would guess as Maguinanao, but possibly the hilt may be post 1900.

15th December 2005, 06:03 AM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I tend to agree with you Jose on the hilt on #2. It looks like a really nice 20th century hilt. I wouldn't be surprised if it is fairly recent. I have seen quite a few nicely made new hilts on some old kris of late. Many of them have ivory kakatus that have been dyed for an aging effect. I think a lot of these old blades get rehilted specifically to increase their resale with new hilts that are made to look older.

15th December 2005, 07:02 AM	#5
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	I'd guess Tausug on the first one, the blade maybe 18C, maybe earlier. The second one looks like what Cato describes as "cross-over", so I would again just say Mindanao. The blade looks old, 1800? At least some of the work on the hilt looks to be recient, at least after 1960.