Go on...show us your Choora!!

Kurt · 2nd November 2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David R

ariel, I do not think this is wootz, more likely a folded steel.

I am of the same opinion!
Kurt

ariel · 4th November 2014, 01:50 AM

Ah so...
:-)

Gavin Nugent · 4th December 2014, 12:22 PM

Here is a snap of a high end Khyber with a wootz blade and fittings.

Gavin

ariel · 5th December 2014, 11:00 PM

Here is my Choora: handle is horn with multiple small nails, all decorative parts are brass. The interesting thing is the thin line of turquoises below the bolster, on both sides.
The scabbard is made of ass hide ( not THAT ass! The one that is a donkey, and has long ears!:-))

When and where would you put it?

Rick · 6th December 2014, 01:31 AM

"When and where would you put it?"

Between the ribs; preferably on a dark night ??

couldn't resist

ariel · 6th December 2014, 02:39 AM

I fully expected it :-)

ariel · 6th June 2015, 05:48 PM

Well, after a long interruption, I want to show 2 more chooras.
The is a long friendly argument between myself and another member about the age of a choora as a pattern.
In his opinion choora appeared only in the 20 th century as a modification of Karud.

Here are two chooras bought originally at an auction in Scotland. Their scabbards are in a sorry shape, but both carry paper labels dated 1854 and 1840. The daggers and their scabbards fit each other perfectly: no doubt original.Since the daggers themselves are not dated, as usual for the Afghani stuff, I did the next best thing: contacted Dr. Cathleen Baker from the Department of Restoration and Preservation of the University of Michigan Library. She is a world-renown expert on all things printed: paper, ink, techniques, bindings etc, former President and member of the Board of Directors of professional societies in her field, and the author of books and articles on the history of printing materials and techniques.
She examined the chooras ( magnifying equipment, UV and infrared lights, some chemical analysis), and in her professional opinion the physical condition of the labels and their materials ( papers, inks) are compatible with the mid-19th century or earlier, and incompatible with 20th century.

Together with the dates, this seems to clinch the issue: chooras existed in the pattern known till today even in the middle of the 19th century.

Gentlemen, I give you 2 oldest dated chooras known to man and beast :-)

And of the beasts: please look at the pics of the handle of the bigger choora: rhino?

4th December 2014, 12:22 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Another Here is a snap of a high end Khyber with a wootz blade and fittings. Gavin Attached Images

5th December 2014, 11:00 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Here is my Choora: handle is horn with multiple small nails, all decorative parts are brass. The interesting thing is the thin line of turquoises below the bolster, on both sides. The scabbard is made of ass hide ( not THAT ass! The one that is a donkey, and has long ears!:-)) When and where would you put it? Attached Images

6th June 2015, 05:48 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well, after a long interruption, I want to show 2 more chooras. The is a long friendly argument between myself and another member about the age of a choora as a pattern. In his opinion choora appeared only in the 20 th century as a modification of Karud. Here are two chooras bought originally at an auction in Scotland. Their scabbards are in a sorry shape, but both carry paper labels dated 1854 and 1840. The daggers and their scabbards fit each other perfectly: no doubt original.Since the daggers themselves are not dated, as usual for the Afghani stuff, I did the next best thing: contacted Dr. Cathleen Baker from the Department of Restoration and Preservation of the University of Michigan Library. She is a world-renown expert on all things printed: paper, ink, techniques, bindings etc, former President and member of the Board of Directors of professional societies in her field, and the author of books and articles on the history of printing materials and techniques. She examined the chooras ( magnifying equipment, UV and infrared lights, some chemical analysis), and in her professional opinion the physical condition of the labels and their materials ( papers, inks) are compatible with the mid-19th century or earlier, and incompatible with 20th century. Together with the dates, this seems to clinch the issue: chooras existed in the pattern known till today even in the middle of the 19th century. Gentlemen, I give you 2 oldest dated chooras known to man and beast :-) And of the beasts: please look at the pics of the handle of the bigger choora: rhino? Attached Images

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4th November 2014, 01:50 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Ah so... :-)

6th December 2014, 01:31 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	"When and where would you put it?" Between the ribs; preferably on a dark night ?? couldn't resist

6th December 2014, 02:39 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I fully expected it :-)