The Habaabi Khanjar/Jambia; FromThe Asir.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Sorry but I fail to see what this has to do with the subject of this thread..........................

Salaams Khanjar 1~ It is a post in reply to the post above it... I take it as belonging to the batch of Arabian threads most of which are contentious in part ... and this was where it was placed... personally I was honoured to answer it.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you very much Ibrahiim, and for astutely realizing that my comments were indeed directed at the group of threads which have run concurrently and all addressing various scope of Arabian history and arms. As you note I was actually reiterating what my own opinion was concerning aspects of these, and I did not actually address the kahnjhar matter specifically because that particular segment is still clouded to me.

My main objective here was primarily to address collectively the profoundly present 'contention' which has constantly plagued these otherwise fascinating threads. My hope is that all participants in these will ascend to the higher goal of focus on subject matter without personal rancor. The great thread on Omani forts and cannon already has fallen victim to this and we have too much vested here to lose another.

Since the participants I intended to address have been engaged in all the threads I refer to in my post, and was prompted by the most current 'interactions' , it simply fell into this thread.

Thank you everybody for your consideration in the matter.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Thank you very much Ibrahiim, and for astutely realizing that my comments were indeed directed at the group of threads which have run concurrently and all addressing various scope of Arabian history and arms. As you note I was actually reiterating what my own opinion was concerning aspects of these, and I did not actually address the kahnjhar matter specifically because that particular segment is still clouded to me.

My main objective here was primarily to address collectively the profoundly present 'contention' which has constantly plagued these otherwise fascinating threads. My hope is that all participants in these will ascend to the higher goal of focus on subject matter without personal rancor. The great thread on Omani forts and cannon already has fallen victim to this and we have too much vested here to lose another.

Since the participants I intended to address have been engaged in all the threads I refer to in my post, and was prompted by the most current 'interactions' , it simply fell into this thread.

Thank you everybody for your consideration in the matter.

Salaams Jim, It is always a pleasure to see you write and as an example to the standard we all aspire to... It was indeed sad to see the Forts thread closed and I can only hope that it reopens since there is a lot of detail to add there ...and from the viewpoint of the excellent additions made by authors like Fernando and who put such a lot of expensive time and effort into their posts I feel most sad...The canon museum in the great fort at Rostaq was on my agenda and as you know I spent months traveling hundreds of kilometres and getting ministry permission etc I was able to compile the lead in to what I hoped would be a key thread...There are over 1000 old forts in Oman and we were in the process of delivering them onto a readable compendium not yet seen and with the Sohar fort unfrocked so to speak... A phenomena that may not be seen for another 100 years..

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[blue lander]

If the Asir region is so isolated, I wonder how these khanjars found their way to western collections. Perhaps the people there trade with people from more acessible regions, and from there they end up in our hands.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by blue lander

If the Asir region is so isolated, I wonder how these khanjars found their way to western collections. Perhaps the people there trade with people from more acessible regions, and from there they end up in our hands.

Its more to do with visitors getting in... rather than stuff getting out.
Regards,
Ibrahahiim al Balooshi.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Salaams all. Please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...8&page=7&pp=30 where the appearance of a new website at http://khanjar.om/Parts.html introduces my reasoned link between Sur and the Red Sea regions ...
The Flower Tribe/ Asir / Habaabi style of Khanjar and the Omani Al Wusta type.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

I repeat here a post I have placed at The Omani Khanjar...

Salaams All~ One burning question is...Regarding the Al Wusta khanjar and its almost identical like ness to the weapon in the Asir (The flower tribe khanjar...also known as Habaabi...of Abha ...which I note only differs in that the Asir style often carries a floral stamp and or a signature on the reverse. (Potentially an owners signature)

Was this weapon faithfully copied by artesans who may have migrated from Al Wusta /perhaps blood relatives...Silversmiths that simply moved to the Asir from Oman ...or is it simply the result of weapons being shipped from Al Wusta and stamped/signed in the Asir...i.e. traded in ?

Regards,
Ibrahim al Balooshi.