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Old 10th December 2013, 09:37 PM   #1
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For clarification, I offered my example for comparison to Sajen's only. I do not necessarily have an opinion about his sword one way or the other.

David, I do not disagree with your observations. I would add that the file work along the top of the side shown is unlike any Thai or Burmese blade I have handled or seen.

If I had to opine, I would lean towards Sumatra...
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Old 10th December 2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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If I had to opine, I would lean towards Sumatra…
That would be my guesstimate as well also considering the sheath form.
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Old 11th December 2013, 12:49 AM   #3
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That would be my guesstimate as well also considering the sheath form.
The sheath is probably not all that distinct...on the SEA mainland similar could be found...with the simple brass bands and chape...black lacquer covering though I would agree and lean more towards Laos, Cambodia...could be the borders with Thailand.
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Old 11th December 2013, 07:12 AM   #4
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The sheath is probably not all that distinct...on the SEA mainland similar could be found...with the simple brass bands and chape...black lacquer covering though I would agree and lean more towards Laos, Cambodia...could be the borders with Thailand.
Do you have some examples to show Nathaniel. I'm having a hard time finding sheaths that look like this from the mainland.
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Old 12th December 2013, 03:58 AM   #5
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Do you have some examples to show Nathaniel. I'm having a hard time finding sheaths that look like this from the mainland.
Hello David,

Here are a couple examples that are similar:

Cambodian
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=81846

Lao
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13658

See Mak 2,(Cambodian) for similar brass decor on the handle.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6204

Burmese sheaths with brass scabbard decor:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6349

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6350

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5970

I will have to look more for the others I had in mind. I still have yet to comment as well about the blade.

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Old 12th December 2013, 05:28 AM   #6
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Honestly Nathaniel, none of those really look similar to me other than that they are wooden sheaths with metal bands. Those materials are used all over SEA. I was hoping to see something with the same shape and profile of Detlef's example. Flat, wide, slightly wider at the bottom. The closest thing in this thread is in Emanuel's post # 22, the top sheath in the second photo.
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Old 12th December 2013, 07:39 AM   #7
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Ah, David, the examples given where not meant to be exact, but just to show that there are similar styles since you said you where having trouble finding similar examples on the SEA mainland. As I mentioned in thread #24 "The sheath is probably not all that distinct...on the SEA mainland similar could be found...with the simple brass bands and chape...black lacquer covering.." indeed generic perhaps, but actually not when the blade and handle are tied in...frustratingly... I do have some photos which would satisfy you from a collector that collects only Cambodian weapons, but the photos are not mine to pass on... I know this answer is less than satisfying. I'm trying to find some other examples that I can show...knives are not my area of interest so I have not archived them as well as I have longer weapons which I collect.
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Old 12th December 2013, 12:18 AM   #8
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That would be my guesstimate as well also considering the sheath form.
Hello David,

have a look again to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16521. By Robert's knife I have thought first Philippines, but I think that the knife Robert have shown coming from Cambodia/Thailand.

Let us wait until I have it in hand and can take some pictures.

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Old 12th December 2013, 01:33 AM   #9
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My vote on the origin of this would also be Cambodia. Another interesting addition to your collection. I can not wait to see what you find next.

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Old 10th December 2013, 09:48 PM   #10
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I'm seeing more of a filipino piece with modified handle.

See this bolo for similar blade profile and tenegre or binangon like this one for similar scabbard construction. A lot more Visayan on this forum cover the features of the knife in OP.

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