Unique Madurese hilts

Jean · 5th November 2013, 02:07 PM

To follow-up with the thread initiated by Sajen about the unusual planar hilts, I propose to open a new thread showing unique/ rare Madurese hilts, I will start with these 3 jangellan style hilts, your comments will be welcome

Regards

David · 5th November 2013, 04:07 PM

Nice hilts Jean. I don't believe i would consider the first one a janggelan hilt however.

Jean · 6th November 2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Nice hilts Jean. I don't believe i would consider the first one a janggelan hilt however.

Hi David,
I agree that this hilt is difficult to classify because of its peculiar design, it is probably a quite recent piece but I am not sure, any opinion about the iconography? The second one has a purely floral design, and the third one made from antler? shows eagles and fighting monkeys which are difficult to clearly see on the pictures.
And attached are 2 rare specimens of topi style hilts.
Regards

David · 6th November 2013, 04:09 PM

Yes, it's unusual alright. The horse and the crown or very typical Madura icons, but i can't really speak to the rest. I am sure i've seen those bundled arrows/spears at the back before, but cant place it. The main figure seems to be part horse, part bird.
I really like the one with the fighting monkeys and eagles.

GIO · 6th November 2013, 06:29 PM

Jean, I personally don't like the hilt n° 1, but the other are beautiful. The last one has a fascinating patina.

Jean · 6th November 2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GIO

Jean, I personally don't like the hilt n° 1, but the other are beautiful. The last one has a fascinating patina.

Thank you Gio, I can understand your negative appreciation about the first hilt because of the odd design. The last one is made from marine ivory I think and is very interesting because of the many symbols especially the rare Wilhem's cross.
Best regards

PS: Other contributors to the thread will be welcome!

Marcokeris · 10th November 2013, 06:09 PM

Three others

David · 10th November 2013, 07:40 PM

Hmmm...we seem to be moving off the concept of "unique".

Jean has suggested to me in PM that i might consider combining this thread with a previous thread on Ornamental Madura Hilts http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=madura+hilts but i was hoping this one would become specific to the really unusual.

GIO · 10th November 2013, 11:27 PM

Marco, though the subject is very common, it is interesting to see the different interpretations of the Dutch soldiers.
You have a full army !

Ganja Iras · 11th August 2014, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

To follow-up with the thread initiated by Sajen about the unusual planar hilts, I propose to open a new thread showing unique/ rare Madurese hilts, I will start with these 3 jangellan style hilts, your comments will be welcome

Regards

hi there

i think i also have something very simillar to your 1st pic ,or completely the same
i bought it in bali ,made of wood and i guess the hilt is new made
a friend from madura also offer me the same style with different material.
thanks ,

ganja iras

Jean · 12th August 2014, 08:36 AM

Yeah, it seems to be a popular model, I also saw a similar one made from ivory in a top notch collection but with a lady's head

Regards

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5th November 2013, 04:07 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,115	Nice hilts Jean. I don't believe i would consider the first one a janggelan hilt however.

6th November 2013, 04:09 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,115	Yes, it's unusual alright. The horse and the crown or very typical Madura icons, but i can't really speak to the rest. I am sure i've seen those bundled arrows/spears at the back before, but cant place it. The main figure seems to be part horse, part bird. I really like the one with the fighting monkeys and eagles.

6th November 2013, 06:29 PM	#5
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 313	Jean, I personally don't like the hilt n° 1, but the other are beautiful. The last one has a fascinating patina.

10th November 2013, 07:40 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,115	Hmmm...we seem to be moving off the concept of "unique". Jean has suggested to me in PM that i might consider combining this thread with a previous thread on Ornamental Madura Hilts http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=madura+hilts but i was hoping this one would become specific to the really unusual.

10th November 2013, 11:27 PM	#9
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 313	Marco, though the subject is very common, it is interesting to see the different interpretations of the Dutch soldiers. You have a full army !

12th August 2014, 08:36 AM	#11
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Yeah, it seems to be a popular model, I also saw a similar one made from ivory in a top notch collection but with a lady's head Regards