AJAMI - Mahdist

Iain · 5th January 2013, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regihis

Yes Iain,
Hausa language, a native language of Nigeria in arabic alphabet.
The sword of Baiajidda have Ajami script accordind to my friend.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5827

Is a tough process.. i dont speak english .

.. and I'll clean up a bit to make it more readable.. in a few days i go send news .. thank you!

Hi Reghisis, take your time. I know communicating in a foreign language can be difficult.

I'm fairly familiar with Hausa and Ajami. I would be quite surprised if your kaskara is in Hausa for several reasons:

a. Thuluth engraving is unknown in Nigeria outside of the Sword of Baiajidda and that is considered to originate outside of Nigeria (See Bivar, who wrote the article where you see the picture of the sword).

b. The Sword of Baiajidda does not have inscriptions in Hausa but rather in Arabic.

c. The kaskara hilt form is not used in Hausa regions, at least not regularly. While there are many of these little kaskara known all with similar inscriptions.

Looking forward to hearing more of what your friend has to say.

regihis · 5th January 2013, 11:24 AM

Words of my friend Aminu from Gusau:

"if u know ajami very will u i'll wright a letter wit any deference language in the world"

is Ajami, not arabic!

I go answer to others and post reply here.
Thank you!

Iain · 5th January 2013, 05:58 PM

Hi regihis,

I'm not questioning what your friend told you, just pointing out why a Hausa inscription would be odd. I believe the Borno region is the only area of Nigeria where the kaskara form is noted (Bivar). Bivar concludes that the blade from the sword of Baiajidda is from the nilotic regions of Sudan.

I'm having a little trouble understanding what your friend is trying to say.

Is he able to translate what is written on the blade?

I'm intrigued by all of this so please keep adding more info about the inscription when you can

regihis · 7th January 2013, 02:02 AM

Hi friends,
I sent the images of the sword to the Mosque of São Paulo and the teacher of arabic identificated the texts as NOT ARABIC. In arab language AJAMI is the word used for NOT ARAB.

Iain · 7th January 2013, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regihis

Hi friends,
I sent the images of the sword to the Mosque of São Paulo and the teacher of arabic identificated the texts as NOT ARABIC. In arab language AJAMI is the word used for NOT ARAB.

Hi Regihis,

The Sudanese dialect is usually quite difficult for other Arab speakers to read.

See this post from Dom.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=12

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5th January 2013, 11:24 AM	#2
regihis Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 39	Words of my friend Aminu from Gusau: "if u know ajami very will u i'll wright a letter wit any deference language in the world" is Ajami, not arabic! I go answer to others and post reply here. Thank you!

5th January 2013, 05:58 PM	#3
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,719	Hi regihis, I'm not questioning what your friend told you, just pointing out why a Hausa inscription would be odd. I believe the Borno region is the only area of Nigeria where the kaskara form is noted (Bivar). Bivar concludes that the blade from the sword of Baiajidda is from the nilotic regions of Sudan. I'm having a little trouble understanding what your friend is trying to say. Is he able to translate what is written on the blade? I'm intrigued by all of this so please keep adding more info about the inscription when you can

7th January 2013, 02:02 AM	#4
regihis Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 39	Hi friends, I sent the images of the sword to the Mosque of São Paulo and the teacher of arabic identificated the texts as NOT ARABIC. In arab language AJAMI is the word used for NOT ARAB.