Persian Qajar Dagger

[Dom]

with .. one stone, I'll shoot two birds

Originally Posted by Atlantia

P.S. it's not meant to be "criticism" Dom.
Some nice ear-rings in that link BTW

the perpetual misunderstanding (joke) between "froggy" and "roast-beef"
about "criticize" there are two kinds; negatives and positives
it was the last one, was going my comments
we have two languages, very close to each one, but some terms very similar leave the place to some light different interpretation

don't speak too much about ear-rings, when you said nice,
the word is weak, but if my wife saw that ...
it's me at this moment I will be a weak man

concerning, second post ...

Originally Posted by Atlantia

When I think of late Qajar Khanjar I think of them being more akin to this form:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16020

yes it's a "Qajar" khanjar, but due to miss care, his condition is very poor, oxidation and pitting due to rust, not to his age
a "noble" patina, as far as I know, must be "green" or "brown"

Originally Posted by Atlantia

The attachment loops on your example reminds me of Arabian Jambiya.
The flat ground oval/diamond section blade with the more simple carved deoration and two colour koftgari look Indian (and show only minimal wear to the silver).

I don't denied that there is a very strong influence between, Persia and India
I have an other Persian khanjar, same era, with a oval/diamond section blade, not "johar", and not Indian,
but it's need a serious refurbishing, that means this type of blade wasn't rare (pic attached)

Originally Posted by Atlantia

The more complex decoration of the scabbard and hilt have an indo-persian feel but exhibit no patina/oxidisation in the recesses and in general the piece seems like a 'fusion' of styles. but a distinctly 'Indian' feel IMVHO.

you mean by that, an edged weapon, without rust (please don't talk about patina, you know my POV ), and plenty dirt, must be a modern production ... interesting ...
but I don't share the concept

Originally Posted by Atlantia

I'm certain I've seen another somewhere. I just can't recollect where.
Can you reference this type to dated examples?

the dating for the Qajar Dynasty era, it's the most simple, because recent, and very well documented
1st Qajar - 1786 - juin 1797 : Agha Mohammad Shah
last Qajar - 16 juillet 1909 - 31 octobre 1925 : Ahmad Shah
nothing before, and nothing after

by the way, I think to have identified the kind of "johar" with the book "Swords & Armour" "weapons of the Islamic World",
and I'm not to much convince that the wootz, of my blade it's the same, that you show

I love that kind of exchange,
very good opportunity to argument, in function of our reciprocal knowledge, and sensibility, thank you Gene

à +

Dom