My first talwar!

Aqtai · 6th September 2005, 09:25 PM

I bought this sword from eBay and it arrived this morning. It is the first ever antique weapon I have bought. According to the caption it is a 19th century Indian talwar. I have taken some rather rushed photos, and I would be grateful for your opinions on the genuineness of this item.

I would also be grateful for any advice on how to clean, care for and store this item, as I have absolutely no idea!

Tim Simmons · 6th September 2005, 09:30 PM

It looks genuine to me, if a little green. Tim

Aqtai · 6th September 2005, 10:39 PM

I think that's my camera. The colours look quite different in real life to the way it looks on the computer screen. If it's sunny tomorrow, I'll take some photos in natural light.

B.I · 6th September 2005, 10:58 PM

nothing worng with that.
i still own my first tulwar (partly sentimental, and partly because its worth the same today, as i paid for it many years ago :-)
well done aqtai, and welcome to the 'collecting' fraternity, may the bug bite strong.

nechesh · 6th September 2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by B.I

well done aqtai, and welcome to the 'collecting' fraternity, may the bug bite strong.

Oh no!

B.I., you put the kiss of death on him. Now all is relationships are doomed to fail!

Aqtai, if you shot these under a florescent light that is why they are green. If you are shooting digitally you should be able to change your white balance to match the light source.

Aqtai · 6th September 2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nechesh

Oh no!

B.I., you put the kiss of death on him. Now all is relationships are doomed to fail!

Aqtai, if you shot these under a florescent light that is why they are green. If you are shooting digitally you should be able to change your white balance to match the light source.

The photos were shot under my fluorescent desk lamp, the flash on the camera also went off.

I'll will have to be a slow collector though, my other half does not approve of spending money on "bits of rusty old metal".

RhysMichael · 6th September 2005, 11:42 PM

I have to agree that it looks genuine to me. Are there any armory marks on it, many times there are. I recall at a seminar the handle guard can have significance as to where in india it comes from. I will try to dig out my notes but someone here will probably know better than I do. Congrats on a good first sword. As to the picture, indirect natural light is usually good
Here is an article I found useful on photographing swords

http://swordforum.com/sfu/photography/poolside.html

nechesh · 7th September 2005, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqtai

The photos were shot under my fluorescent desk lamp, the flash on the camera also went off.
I'll will have to be a slow collector though, my other half does not approve of spending money on "bits of rusty old metal".

They never do, my friend, they never do.

The fluorescent light is what's effecting your color. Turn it off and try again.

ariel · 7th September 2005, 03:28 AM

OK, buddy, you have been bitten and there is no cure: from now on you shall measure the price of everything ( gas, mortgage, restaurants, clothes, girlfriends....) in "Tulwar units".
As for this one, I am puzzled by the handle: it is not Punjabi or Sikh (symmetrical sharp swelling in the middle) or Delhi ( very rounded and also symmetrical). This one is narrow at the top and is quite thick at the bottom.
Where is it from?

Andrew · 7th September 2005, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqtai

I'll will have to be a slow collector though, my other half does not approve of spending money on "bits of rusty old metal".

The others are correct, Aqtai: you're doomed. Now you need to try and get her hooked on the hunt for that sleeper that will allow you to turn a "profit" on your "investment".

Aqtai · 7th September 2005, 07:29 PM

Here are some photos taken today in natural light. Unfortunately it was a typical English summer day, i.e. overcast and windy!

I think this might be a maker's mark:

Henk · 7th September 2005, 08:08 PM

Ooooh............... you are in big trouble!!!!!!!!! You bought your first one and she thinks it is old rusty iron!!!!!!! Believe me, they almost all do. But you have to go down on your knees for a second one and a third one

.

But then you will come in the atmosphere that you can hang a new one between the others without telling her

She will scan the wall with her eyes and then it is necesarry to stay calm, don't let come the sweatdrops on your forehead and don't get a red face. And catch her with her own words when she is wearing a new dress...... That sword a new one??? Ooh no, that is hanging there already since months!!!!

Good hunting

ham · 16th September 2005, 04:49 AM

Nice crisp mark struck on the blade, well done.
Give Rawson's The Indian Sword a read. It will fill you in thoroughly on tulwars.

Sincerely,

Ham

Spunjer · 16th September 2005, 05:01 AM

nice sword, agtai. also i find taking pictures on overcast days better than sunny days...

Quote:

She will scan the wall with her eyes and then it is necesarry to stay calm, don't let come the sweatdrops on your forehead and don't get a red face. And catch her with her own words when she is wearing a new dress...... That sword a new one??? Ooh no, that is hanging there already since months!!!!

AHAHAHAHA!!! classic. that is so true, henk. another classic one:

her: when did you get that one? (her looking at new sword)

me: hun, this is the same one i showed you couple months ago. (saying it with incredulous look on the face)

Yannis · 17th September 2005, 08:41 AM

Sometimes I feel the luckiest here. In my wall 3 pieces come from HER shopping!

The only problem is that I like to pick better examples and SHE doesnot let me sell them.

But even this fine person carries the same attitude often: "No more blades, we keep money for vacations. OK?". I agree and the next time I bid on Ebay. Now I wait for 2 pieces, how can I tell?

Jens Nordlunde · 17th September 2005, 10:05 AM

Hi Yannis,

This one is easy. When they arrive hide them until SHE is out of the house, remove two of the swords from the wall and put the two new ones up. When SHE comes home, you claim that a miracle has happened – remember to try to look as if you believe in it yourself, or you wont convince her

.

Henk · 17th September 2005, 11:03 AM

Yannis,

Never sell the pieces she bought for you!!!! Worship them and be sure they hang in the middle of the wall!! Thank her from time to time, bring her flowers and whisper in her ear that those three are so lonely and that you have the solution for it to the left and the right of those three

6th September 2005, 09:25 PM	#1
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	My first talwar! I bought this sword from eBay and it arrived this morning. It is the first ever antique weapon I have bought. According to the caption it is a 19th century Indian talwar. I have taken some rather rushed photos, and I would be grateful for your opinions on the genuineness of this item. I would also be grateful for any advice on how to clean, care for and store this item, as I have absolutely no idea!

7th September 2005, 07:29 PM	#11
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Here are some photos taken today in natural light. Unfortunately it was a typical English summer day, i.e. overcast and windy! I think this might be a maker's mark: Last edited by Aqtai; 7th September 2005 at 07:44 PM.

17th September 2005, 10:05 AM	#16
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Yannis, This one is easy. When they arrive hide them until SHE is out of the house, remove two of the swords from the wall and put the two new ones up. When SHE comes home, you claim that a miracle has happened – remember to try to look as if you believe in it yourself, or you wont convince her.

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6th September 2005, 09:30 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	It looks genuine to me, if a little green. Tim

6th September 2005, 10:39 PM	#3
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	I think that's my camera. The colours look quite different in real life to the way it looks on the computer screen. If it's sunny tomorrow, I'll take some photos in natural light.

6th September 2005, 10:58 PM	#4
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	nothing worng with that. i still own my first tulwar (partly sentimental, and partly because its worth the same today, as i paid for it many years ago :-) well done aqtai, and welcome to the 'collecting' fraternity, may the bug bite strong.

6th September 2005, 11:42 PM	#7
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	I have to agree that it looks genuine to me. Are there any armory marks on it, many times there are. I recall at a seminar the handle guard can have significance as to where in india it comes from. I will try to dig out my notes but someone here will probably know better than I do. Congrats on a good first sword. As to the picture, indirect natural light is usually good Here is an article I found useful on photographing swords http://swordforum.com/sfu/photography/poolside.html

7th September 2005, 03:28 AM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	OK, buddy, you have been bitten and there is no cure: from now on you shall measure the price of everything ( gas, mortgage, restaurants, clothes, girlfriends....) in "Tulwar units". As for this one, I am puzzled by the handle: it is not Punjabi or Sikh (symmetrical sharp swelling in the middle) or Delhi ( very rounded and also symmetrical). This one is narrow at the top and is quite thick at the bottom. Where is it from?

7th September 2005, 08:08 PM	#12
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Ooooh............... you are in big trouble!!!!!!!!! You bought your first one and she thinks it is old rusty iron!!!!!!! Believe me, they almost all do. But you have to go down on your knees for a second one and a third one . But then you will come in the atmosphere that you can hang a new one between the others without telling her She will scan the wall with her eyes and then it is necesarry to stay calm, don't let come the sweatdrops on your forehead and don't get a red face. And catch her with her own words when she is wearing a new dress...... That sword a new one??? Ooh no, that is hanging there already since months!!!! Good hunting

16th September 2005, 04:49 AM	#13
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Nice crisp mark struck on the blade, well done. Give Rawson's The Indian Sword a read. It will fill you in thoroughly on tulwars. Sincerely, Ham

17th September 2005, 08:41 AM	#15
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Sometimes I feel the luckiest here. In my wall 3 pieces come from HER shopping! The only problem is that I like to pick better examples and SHE doesnot let me sell them. But even this fine person carries the same attitude often: "No more blades, we keep money for vacations. OK?". I agree and the next time I bid on Ebay. Now I wait for 2 pieces, how can I tell?

17th September 2005, 11:03 AM	#17
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Yannis, Never sell the pieces she bought for you!!!! Worship them and be sure they hang in the middle of the wall!! Thank her from time to time, bring her flowers and whisper in her ear that those three are so lonely and that you have the solution for it to the left and the right of those three