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This one ended recently by ebay. I am not the winner but I recognize the "bucao" stampon the blade. What will be the meaning?
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Thanks for the pics. There's a "Bucao" street in Iriga City, Albay province in the Bicol region, which province is known for producing traditional Bicol blades. And Bucao is a family name.
Iriga City by the way is a place to go to, if one is looking for newly made traditional Bicol blades. |
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And bocao also happened to be a Bicol term for a knife or tool, per the entry below in Marcos de Lisboa's 1754 Bicol-Spanish dictionary.
Perhaps our Spanish-speaking friends can translate the entire definition under bocao? ![]() |
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From Malcolm Mintz's Bicol-English dictionary (thanks to Nonoy Tan):
bukaw [pronounced BOO-cow] - referring to a knife or other tool or implement which is in the process of being forged or an earthenware pot which is in the process of being worked; MA-, -ON or MAG-, PAG--ON to be in the process of working on a knife, took, pot [MDL, i.e., Marcos de Lisboa] |
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A work in progress; steel or clay ?
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![]() Hence the "Bucao" engraved on the blade must be referring to the owner's family name... |
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Seeing as it can refer to a knife, tool, other implement or pot being worked (possibly at a certain stage) could it just be a term for heat treated ??
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The elusive name DUGGAN in post number 27 is more likely to be DUBBAN which is near to the town of IRIGA in CAMARINES SUR (part of Bicol region)--as found on another example below (also post number 27)--and a recognized area for knife production. In my experience, inscriptions on Luzon blades are most likely to indicate town of manufacture or simply state "Philippines." The next most common inscription is a date of manufacture or a commemorative date (e.g., 1945 is a common commemorative date, representing the year Macarthur returned to the Philippines, and not necessarily the date the knife was made). Occasionally a panday will "sign" his work with his initials. Lastly, and usually found only on higher end pieces, may be some personal information about the owner, such as a name, initials or special inscription/dedication. Owner's names and initials are more commonly found on sheaths than on blades. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 19th July 2014 at 07:27 AM. |
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