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Old 28th January 2012, 06:55 PM   #1
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Los modelos reglamentarios o de ordenanza eran producidos por las fábricas, bajo el control estatal. Los ejemplares que se han subido al foro son producidos para el mercado civil. Las fábricas estatales estaban en Eibar, Placencia, Oviedo, etc. Había también fundiciones oficiales o estatales para la producción de cañones de bronce.

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Hello, Cannonmn

The ordinance or regulatory models were produced by factories under state control. The specimens that have been uploaded to the forum are produced for the civilian market. The state-owned factories were in Eibar, Placencia, Oviedo, and so on. There were also official or state foundries for the production of bronze barrels.

Affectionately. Fernando K
FK, thanks, I think you have answered my question but the way it is stated I am not 100% certain of the meaning. You are saying that Spanish Army weapons were made by factories controlled by the Crown (monarchy) under the king, which in the US we would call "arsenals."

Question 1: I think you are saying that the weapons posted, since they are NOT military, were NOT made by the military arsenals. Is that correct?

My confusion I think comes from the fact that in the US, quite often non-government, private or public companies or corporations were involved in manufacturing small arms for the US Army.

Question 2: Therefore I wondered if "private" companies in Spain also produced weapons for the Spanish Army. I think you are telling me that they did not, neither at the time the pictured pieces were made, nor later. Is that correct?
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Old 30th January 2012, 01:15 PM   #2
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Hola, Cannonmn

Para instalar una analogía, es lo mismo que sucede con los armeros que producían el rifle Kentucky o de Pennsylvania, respecto que los modelos reglamentarios, por ejemplo, el modelo 1803 de rifle producido en Harper·s Ferry.

Ramiro Larrañaga, en su obra "Sintesis Histórica de la Armeria Vasca", se ha ocupado, en un trabajo improbo de todas las referencias que se encuentran en todos los archivos, museos, etc. de España, en todo lo que se refiera a los cotratos de la Corona con los armeros, desde 1400 en adelante.

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Hello, Cannonmn

To establish an analogy, the same thing happens with dealers who produced the Kentucky or Pennsylvania rifle, concerning ordnance models, for example, the model 1803 rifle produced in Harper · s Ferry.

Ramiro Larrañaga, in his "History of the Armory Synthesis Vasca", has been busy doing a great job with all references found in all the archives, museums, etc. of Spain, in all that relates to the Crown contracts with the (private)gun dealers, from 1400 onwards.

Affectionately. Fernando K

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Old 30th January 2012, 04:07 PM   #3
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FK, thanks, I will leave here believing that small arms for the Spanish Army were made only at Royal Army arsenals, and civilian makers did not make small arms for the Spanish Army. Appreciate the clarification.
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