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|  21st January 2012, 11:10 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Identification of origin of kris hilt 
			
			I would welcome suggestions about the place of origin of this hilt.
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|  21st January 2012, 07:30 PM | #2 | 
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			Hello Loedjoe, it is a Jawa Deman hilt of unusual form, could be from Sumatra but could be as well from Sumbawa. I have seen hilts of similar form which was attributed to Sumbawa. Is it from wood? Regards, Detlef | 
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|  22nd January 2012, 09:29 AM | #3 | 
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				 |  Identification of origin of kris hilt 
			
			Hallo Detlef Many thanks for your suggestions. Yes, it is wood, striped horizontally with dark and light bands, impossible to see in the photos. Best wishes, Loedjoe | 
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|  22nd January 2012, 04:42 PM | #4 | 
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			Hello Loedjoe, is the wood similar like this one from my collection I have shown in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13469 Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 22nd January 2012 at 08:49 PM. | 
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|  23rd January 2012, 11:50 AM | #5 | 
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				 |  Identification of kris hilt 
			
			Hallo Detlef Yes, the wood is very like your intersting hilt, but not as clear - the surface on mine is rather worn. Do you know what wood it is? Best wishes Loedjoe | 
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|  23rd January 2012, 03:38 PM | #6 | |
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 I don't have a clue but when it is really the same wood it most likely that both hilts are from the same area. Since I don't know exactly from where my hilt this isn't from great help.     Best regards, Detlef | |
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|  23rd January 2012, 05:29 PM | #7 | 
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			IMO these 2 Jawa demam hilts are quite different, the one from Sajen seems to originate from Sumatra and the primitive one from Loedjoe possibly from Sumbawa. I have one piece also in primitive JD style deemed to originate from Sumba or Sumbawa (see picture). Best regards | 
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|  31st January 2012, 01:42 PM | #8 | 
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			Many thanks, Sajen and Jean, for your helpful replies.
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