yataghan translation

[TVV]

Gentlemen,
Dandi is new and may not understand the rules quite yet. To help him out, I am attaching a picture of the entire yataghan before it was acquired by its current owner.
Regards,
Teodor

[Dom]

Originally Posted by TVV

Gentlemen,
Dandi is new and may not understand the rules quite yet. To help him out, I am attaching a picture of the entire yataghan before it was acquired by its current owner.
Regards,
Teodor

Hi Teodor and Dandi,
I understand the situation
myself, some years ago, I got some difficulties when I came here for the fist time ... I didn't forgot it
but, a rule has been decided, if we don't apply it ?? ... why to put a rule, specially not too much restrictive

anyway for you, to be patient waiting for "Zifir" assistance,
from the two pictures, my translator, gave me at least one translation,
the other it's in Turkish language, with some Arabic words,
but too few to be intelligible

AGHA MOHAMED SAHEB either OWNER MOHAMED AGHA

"AGHA" been a military rank in Ottoman Janissary troops

again, Dandi, you are very welcome here

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Dom

[TVV]

Thank you Dom!
Teodor

[Zifir]

Hi,
I did not translate Maaşallah on the picture, because I ran out of space. Probably it does not need translation for many but anyway; "Maaşallah" literally means "what wonders Allah has willed" and is used to avert evil eye.

Best,
Zifir

[TVV]

A somewhat unusual and a very poetic inscription, thank you Zifir! Could its meaning be interpreted as a janissary defiance to the Sultan towards the end of the corps, during Mahmud II's reign? Or is the emaning entirely different?
Teodor

[Zifir]

Hi Teodor,
I came across this inscription a few times, for the examples you can look at these threads:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=g%F6n%FCl

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=g%F6n%FCl


Interesting idea about how to interpret the inscription, I never thought it in that way. How did the owners choose a certain inscription over others, or did they really choose which inscriptions to put on their yatağans, I really don't know. Also the title Ağa (or Agha) is a tricky one, this title was used by all the military classes. The owner could be a janissary as Dom pointed out, he could be also a member of artillery corps, naval soldier, a member of ruling elite etc etc. no way of telling with this little piece of information.

[dandi]

Hi all,
Thank you very much for the attention you have paid to me!
I believe you are great men with great hearts! That is why I will do my best in future to show you articles that will be interesting for you.
I would like to thank personally to Dom as he was the man who has first met me here in the forum.I will remember him forever!
To Zifir I could say a great Thank you! too! I am a craftsman and I often go to Istanbul. Who knows HE /God may give us the chance to meet one day!
And I am waiting for Teo to meet in person and treat him for his help!

Some words about the inscription in my opinion it comes from the Koran I guess or it is just a religious text which says that heart which is righteous, does not hold a Muslim in contempt. This is Islamic value.
Regards,
Dandi