Dave and Lonna's recent find a Moro Kris

[kino]

I'm posting this for Dave S.
Give us the stats Dave. Does it have a scabbard? What is the wrap around the handle.

[Spunjer]

appears to be leather. similar to this:

[VANDOO]

A VERY NICE OLD BLADE WITH A GREAT PATTERN. THE HANDLE IS NOT OF A PHILIPPINE FORM AND MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLES A MALAYSAN OR INDONESIAN GOD FORM USED ON THE KERIS DAGGERS.
PERHAPS THE KRISS BLADE WAS ALSO MADE IN MALAYSIA OR INDONESIA OR IT MAY BE A MORO BLADE WITH A KERIS FORM OF HANDLE ADDED . EITHER WAY IT LOOKS NICE. DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE HANDLE AND BLADE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER LONG?

[Spunjer]

nah, vandoo, it's moro; handle, blade and all. you just don't see this type of handle too often. there was one posted not too long ago

here's an older version:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10934

[Spunjer]

here's a closer one

[Battara]

Thank you Ron, great example. An old form of hilt that may harken back to Indonesian forms.

[ThePepperSkull]

Wherever she comes from, she sure is purdy. I say it every time one pops up here: I am in love with the elegance of the older form Moro Kris. Wonderful!

Say, we see straight, five-waved, or seven/more waves on Moro kris from all notable eras. Why is it that we only see the three-waved moro kris/keris sundang on the really older pieces?

[VVV]

This Kris hilt-form with a half Jawa Demam is very interesting.
In his Kris CD Karsten Sejr Jensen attributed his Kris to Borneo (attached), probably because of the sheath. I also found one on eBay (that used to belong to another member of this forum) this Summer, unfortunately not as good as Dave and Lonna's or Karsten's.

Michael

[CCUAL]

Hello Dave, Lonna, how are you guys? Nice kris, but I like this one better.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=garuda

[DaveS]

Albert: No scabbard unfortunatly. The blade measures 19 inches, the handle
5 inches. The handle appears to be the normal hemp wrap with the black
lacquer cover or whatever it is that they used. The feather pattern is also
the deepest that iv'e ever seen. I simply can't figure out how it was done.
Was it etched, or was it pattern-welded. If one looks closely at the edges
of the blade by the gangya, where the deep part of the pattern ends there
are little strands of what appears to be nickle. Can anyone shed any light
on just how they did these twist-core patterns. Some look etched, some
look like they used nickel, and some look like a combination of the two....Dave

[Rick]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Albert: No scabbard unfortunatly. The blade measures 19 inches, the handle
5 inches. The handle appears to be the normal hemp wrap with the black
lacquer cover or whatever it is that they used. The feather pattern is also
the deepest that iv'e ever seen. I simply can't figure out how it was done.
Was it etched, or was it pattern-welded. If one looks closely at the edges
of the blade by the gangya, where the deep part of the pattern ends there
are little strands of what appears to be nickle. Can anyone shed any light
on just how they did these twist-core patterns. Some look etched, some
look like they used nickel, and some look like a combination of the two....Dave

I have been wondering the same thing about the topographic features of the core, Dave .

D'you suppose the blade was taken to the point where it was almost finished except for the final sharpen and polish, and then treated with a resist, acid etched in that area and then given the final polish/sharpening; or was it done after ?

[VANDOO]

COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT THIS WAS DONE THE SAME WAY A KERIS IS SOMETIMES DONE. TWO SECTIONS OF PARMOR FORGED ONTO A STEEL CORE ONE ON EACH SIDE.? NO MATTER HOW IT WAS DONE IT IS REMARKABLE.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by VANDOO

COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT THIS WAS DONE THE SAME WAY A KERIS IS SOMETIMES DONE. TWO SECTIONS OF PARMOR FORGED ONTO A STEEL CORE ONE ON EACH SIDE.? NO MATTER HOW IT WAS DONE IT IS REMARKABLE.

Hi Barry, that may be the case, but it still does not explain the topography of the pattern welding .

[DaveS]

Chris: Hi. Haven't heard from you in quite a while. It's true the ivory hilt
is much better looking than the wooden hilt, but i think the patterning is
better in this example. Are you going to be able to make the Pasadena Knife
Show in March?..........Dave.

[CCUAL]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Chris: Hi. Haven't heard from you in quite a while. It's true the ivory hilt
is much better looking than the wooden hilt, but i think the patterning is
better in this example. Are you going to be able to make the Pasadena Knife
Show in March?..........Dave.

Dave, if you're tired taking care of the ivory twistedcore kris let me know, I can take care of 'em for ya! Make sure to bring 'em in Pasadena in March.
Sent you an email.

[DaveS]

We have all seen twist-core krises, campilons, panabas, i have been
lucky enough to get a twist-core bolo, but has anyone ever seen a twist-
core barong. I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about someone owning
one. I suspect that there has to be one somewhere floating about...Dave

[DaveS]

Rick: It might be like some Javanese kris. Very heavily etched to produce
a very rough blade. Could this panel also have been forged separately and
then welded into the blade as a completely separate piece?......Dave.

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by DaveS

We have all seen twist-core krises, campilons, panabas, i have been
lucky enough to get a twist-core bolo, but has anyone ever seen a twist-
core barong. I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about someone owning
one. I suspect that there has to be one somewhere floating about...Dave

IMHO, i don't think it's feasible nor practical to have a twistcore in a barung due to its shape, reason why we haven't seen any...